Dead to the Law

[theefaith]

What happened to the gospel?

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect

Matthew 5:20
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much:

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlastingpunishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[theefaith]

They were under Law! The way to be blameless was through the Sacrificial System of the Law.

The sacrifice of an animal which represented the future sacrifice of Christ for the sins of the world.

None of them could keep the Law!

Jn. 7:19

"Did not Moses give you the law, yet none of you keeps the law? Why do you seek to kill Me?”

The promise (sacred oath or sacrament) of the Father acts 2:38-39 with reference to ez 36:25-27

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Jn 3:5 born again by water and the spirit.

Heb 7:21 For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
(Oath = sacrament)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Based on Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

A promise is a sacred oath or sacrament!
Baptismal regeneration is the promise of the Father for union in the new covenant!

The church and the seven sacraments are necessary for salvation

Better covenant on better promises

 

[Charlie24]

Speaking to the Pharisees

sanctifying grace thru the sacraments enables us to be holy and righteous

Yes, of course! The Law says "do." The Cross says "done."

Faith in Christ liberates us from the curse of the Law!

Galatians 3:13

 

[amigo de christo]

I agree but it sounds like they're saying that if we still sin we're not saved and oh yeah @firstthings1st. I forgot to add you.

Lets allow what paul wrote to remind us .
Who we serve is whose we are . whether of sin unto death or of obediance unto Righteousness .
Let us not be the servants of the flesh . For if ye walk after the flesh ye shall die , but if you Through the SPIRIT
do mortify the deeds of the flesh , Ye shall live . Let us remember the pure original doctrine .
And confess any faults , pray to be healed . If we see error in brethren let us be quick to correct it as well .
Remembering what james also said , Brethren , believers , if any of YOU does ERR from the truth
and one converts the sinner from the error of his ways , he has saved a soul from death
and covered a multitude of sins . Charity covers a multitude of sins , thus LOVE corrects .
Be encouraged dear sister . Let us read our bibles daily and be reading the Holy scrips
which indeed will make us wise unto salvation through our Faith which is in Christ .

 

[theefaith]

Yes, of course! The Law says "do." The Cross says "done."

Faith in Christ liberates us from the curse of the Law!

Galatians 3:13

“faith alone”?

 

[theefaith]

Yes, of course! The Law says "do." The Cross says "done."

Faith in Christ liberates us from the curse of the Law!

Galatians 3:13

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 1:22-25
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. ...

 

[Charlie24]

“faith alone”?

Faith backed up with works, as James said! But the works are only proof of justification.

But Paul tells us "not by works of righteousness which we have done, but by mercy He saved us."

It is 100% of His mercy that we are justified.

 

[BarneyFife]

If you still sin you need to repent. There may be stumbling along the path but remain on the path and keep moving forward. Trust God who brought you this far to bring you all the way home.

For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. (Proverbs 24:16)

 

[Charlie24]

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

James 1:22-25
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. ...

Gal. 3:11

"But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”

What does this tell you?

 

[BarneyFife]

You cannot turn to God without first turning away from sin.

Many think that they cannot come to Christ unless they first repent, and that repentance prepares for the forgiveness of their sins. It is true that repentance does precede the forgiveness of sins; for it is only the broken and contrite heart that will feel the need of a Saviour. But must the sinner wait till he has repented before he can come to Jesus? Is repentance to be made an obstacle between the sinner and the Saviour?

The Bible does not teach that the sinner must repent before he can heed the invitation of Christ, “Come unto Me, all ye that labor and are heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” Matthew 11:28. It is the virtue that goes forth from Christ, that leads to genuine repentance.

Peter made the matter clear in his statement to the Israelites when he said, “Him hath God exalted with His right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.” Acts 5:31.

We can no more repent without the Spirit of Christ to awaken the conscience than we can be pardoned without Christ.

Christ is the source of every right impulse. He is the only one that can implant in the heart enmity against sin. Every desire for truth and purity, every conviction of our own sinfulness, is an evidence that His Spirit is moving upon our hearts.

...for without Me ye can do nothing. (John 15:5)

 

[theefaith]

Gal. 3:11

"But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.”

What does this tell you?

where does it say “faith alone”???

faith and the sacraments
mk 16:16
Acts 8:37-38

Btw how did the eunuch know about baptism? Philip preached Jesus?
Obviously FACAGA!

 

[Charlie24]

where does it say “faith alone”???

faith and the sacraments
mk 16:16
Acts 8:37-38

Btw how did the eunuch know about baptism? Philip preached Jesus?
Obviously FACAGA!

If we cannot be justified by Law, what is the only thing left whereby we can be justified?

 

[BarneyFife]

I believe that it was @BarnyFife who first mentioned what he saw in you and @NotHisLife....that you were being bullies toward me...I am only repeating what was his observation.

Well, since he pretty much bullies everyone who doesn't agree with him (unless things have changed), that's highly likely. We both got called out by a mod not too long ago and he "repented." I can see he's back at it.

Nevertheless, I can stand on my own two feet...for God is with me.

Attaboy, JBF!

 

[BarneyFife]

I believe that it was @BarnyFife who first mentioned what he saw in you and @NotHisLife....that you were being bullies toward me...I am only repeating what was his observation.

Well, since he pretty much bullies everyone who doesn't agree with him (unless things have changed), that's highly likely. We both got called out by a mod not too long ago and he "repented." I can see he's back at it.

Nevertheless, I can stand on my own two feet...for God is with me.

Attaboy, JBF!

Luther said we could kill and rape a thousand times a day and Grace would cover it....don’t get your panties in a knot,all you Legalists out there.....Luther was using “ hyperbole”...... look it up....

Sick hyperbole

 

[BarneyFife]

Even if you were “ Sinless” , it would be a waste of time.

How utterly tragic. Even though I agree that obedience to the law counts not one iota for merit toward salvation, how could being sinless possibly be a waste of time?!!! Would it be such an awful thing to do good, and no harm toward the rest of God's creation?!!!

 

[BarneyFife]

.....just about as Unbiblical as it gets.....”Jesus Christ is THE END OF THE LAW for all of those that Believe”......

End of the law as justification, perhaps, but you're leaving out all the good things that are said in the New Testament about the law. Not to mention the Proverbs and Psalms.

 

[theefaith]

If we cannot be justified by Law, what is the only thing left whereby we can be justified?

by Jesus Christ thru His church and the sacraments with faith!
Christ and His church are one acts 22:9

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 acts 9 eph 2:20

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jesus Christ does not abandon His holy bride! Matt 28:19-20 with His church (apostles) till the end!

faith and baptism is the initiation into the new covenant

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


Acts 2:47
Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

 

[BarneyFife]

I was hoping someone would mention this promise of the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-34). The OP left it that because Christ kept the law perfectly, that we are under no laws whatsoever as long as we trust in Jesus. Wrong. The old flesh is contrary to the written laws. Jesus made us to be born again with a new nature with the laws written on our hearts, so that instead of being contrary to the laws, they are part of our new nature to keep naturally.

cc: @Charlie24

Let's talk about the New Covenant promise. Which laws did God mean to write upon the hearts of believers? Just asking.

 

[theefaith]

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...

Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Then Once saved always saved!

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Resting in the Gospel, abandoning the Burden Of trying to “MAKE” yourself Worthy Of Salvation as opposed to seeing that you have been “ MADE” Worthy by the Blood Of the Lamb .....That spurs Love .....Love spurs the Obedience That God is looking for..... a lot of what people consider to be “ Obedience” is just Dead Works.....Are you “ doing something” to GET Saved or to STAY Saved? It’s a Dead Work.....