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BloodBought 1953

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that why Mary the ever Virgin mother of God is so powerful coz Jesus honors His mother


Brainwashing for all to see....
The Romanists sure got ONE thing correct....” Give us a child until they are seven and we will have them for life”....... sad

Not entirely true though.....many people get saved DESPITE Romanist Doctrine...

I’ve seen it....I don’t know how...it’s a miracle I suppose....
 

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Prove it.
Using Scripture..
You have expressed an opinion.....that doesn’t count for much around here....I want to see chapter and verse....
 

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Luther was astonished by the Grace of God .......Astonished by it to the point of praising it with ridiculous exaggeration ! Luther, for all Of His faults , truly understood Gods Amazing Grace..... many in here have never experienced the Grace Of God ....God has not bestowed it on them....they won’t be Saved without ....
I suppose it has to be lived to understand it.....Saved people.....those actually Saved by Grace Know Exactly where Luther was coming from....if you don’t understand it, it’s YOUR problem—— NOT Luther’s .....nor mine.....

What Luther probably didn't understand was that if anyone is saved / born again through the grace of God, they are a new creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17 (kjv))...identified by the following scripture,

Tit 3:3, For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

Such people do not rape a million times per day...

So his statement of hyperbole, that he would still be saved if he raped a million times a day, turns out to be false...for such behaviour would be faithful evidence that he was not truly born again of the Holy Spirt but had a false profession of faith.

I am talking about in regard to Salvation.....obedience is always great, but a person is Wrong— DAMNED WRONG —- if he thinks Obedience is the Criteria for the entrance to Heaven . Faith in Jesus and His Finished Work Of The Cross ALONE accomplishes that....

"the doers of the law shall be justified" (Romans 2:13) when they stand before God on the day that they are judged by their works (2 Corinthians 5:10)...not because they sought to obey a set of do's and don'ts and succeeded at it...but because they received the Holy Spirit by faith (Galatians 3:14) and the love of the Lord through that Spirit (Romans 5:5); which love is practical (1 John 3:17-18) and the fulfilling of the righteousness of the law within them (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

They were justified on this earth through faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law. But because they had faith in Christ, they bore the fruit of the Spirit against which there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

So, they became law-abiding citizens of the kingdom through bearing the fruit of the Spirit because of faith in Jesus Christ.

God ” Found fault” with the old covenant...

you are forgetting that the New Covenant includes the law being written on the hearts and minds of its recipients (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16, Romans 8:7, Romans 8:4, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14; Romans 5:5)

...who drew “ first blood?

You did.
 
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I wholeheartedly agree with that concept.

Where have I said anything to the contrary?


Uh.....wanna discuss your “ Doctrine” Of “ Lucky Repentance?” You barely mention it anymore....
If it is true , you are going to make God angry by not shouting it from the mountain tops ! Do I sense a reluctance ? Why the silence? Aren’t souls being Lost as you withhold the “ truth”....If I thought that one had to repent of all their sins before they die, lest they go to Hell, I would be in here shouting it out anytime that I did not see it taught.....
 

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So you don't even believe we have to keep the two great commandments? o_Oo_O:confused:

No. It would be great if we could , but we can’t. We need Grace. I thank God
I got it because I Rest in the Gospel .... how about you?

There is no law that has the ability to impart life (Galatians 3:21)...not even the law that says, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul, mind, and strength; and thy neighbor as thyself."

That law merely shows us that we are sinners because without the Holy Spirit we miserably fail when it comes to the love that is required.

However, through faith in Christ, the love of the Lord can be shed abroad in our hearts so that we do measure up to that requirement (Romans 5:5).

So, we are saved by faith in Christ and not by that law which only shows us that we have sinned and come short of the glory of the Lord.

When we begin to allow Christ to live His life in us and through us, it is then that He will begin living a perfect life (Colossians 3:14) in and through these mortal bodies that we also dwell in (Galatians 2:20).
 
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Every time I try to tell you that salvation isn't based on works but on grace.

I wholeheartedly agree with that concept.

Where have I said anything to the contrary?

Uh.....wanna discuss your “ Doctrine” Of “ Lucky Repentance?” You barely mention it anymore....
If it is true , you are going to make God angry by not shouting it from the mountain tops ! Do I sense a reluctance ? Why the silence? Aren’t souls being Lost as you withhold the “ truth”....If I thought that one had to repent of all their sins before they die, lest they go to Hell, I would be in here shouting it out anytime that I did not see it taught.....

My belief in "Lucky Repentance" (which is biblical, btw) in no way contradicts the concept that we are saved by grace through faith.

We can only begin to walk in holiness and righteousness by the grace of God. Righteousness is indeed a gift (Romans 5:17) and it is indeed practical (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6).
 
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Uh.....wanna discuss your “ Doctrine” Of “ Lucky Repentance?” You barely mention it anymore....
If it is true , you are going to make God angry by not shouting it from the mountain tops ! Do I sense a reluctance ? Why the silence? Aren’t souls being Lost as you withhold the “ truth”....If I thought that one had to repent of all their sins before they die, lest they go to Hell, I would be in here shouting it out anytime that I did not see it taught.....
There are many doctrines in scripture that need to be discussed.

The doctrine of "Lucky Repentance" is only one of them.

We will move on from that doctrine if God permits; as it is a basic doctrine (Hebrews 6:1-3).

As long as you continue to bring it up, I will address it; for it will be useful for the "newbies" to understand.
 

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Your concept of “ Lucky Repentance” is a splendid example of “ Adding to the Gospel”.... is “ repenting from all of your sins before you die in order to be Saved from Hell “ even “hinted at” in the Book Of Galatians? You obviously don’t read it so I will assure you that the answer is “ No” ....you not only add to and contradict Paul's Gospel ....you” trample the Blood Of Jesus”,declaring it is too weak to cover sins not remembered or the sins that we are not even aware of.....
You are so close at times , but ultimately you refuse to “ let go and let God”..... yep, you sometimes get close, but when it comes to Salvation—— a miss is as good as a mile.....Repent.Repent and Believe the Gospel. Without adding to it....
If you don’t rest in it , I’ll say it again—- God will declare you guilty of UNBELIEF.....aren't you afraid?
 

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Your concept of “ Lucky Repentance” is a splendid example of “ Adding to the Gospel”.... is “ repenting from all of your sins before you die in order to be Saved from Hell “ even “hinted at” in the Book Of Galatians?

Yes...in Galatians 5:19-21.

you” trample the Blood Of Jesus”,declaring it is too weak to cover sins not remembered or the sins that we are not even aware of...

You trample on the blood of Jesus by teaching that it does not have the power to sanctify a man (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and to cleanse him from all sin (see 1 John 1:7).
 
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You wouldn't recognize something like that if it bit you in the butt.


It was Sinful to say that word ! You know the word I am talking about! Where did you get it ? Lol..... better repent —- and FAST!
You sound more like BB every day! There may be hope for you yet! You are still in my prayers ! Maybe God is answering them...you appear to actually be loosening up a bit.....even though now you are guilty of the sin of Stealing.....imitation is the sincerest form of flattery....but you need to repent of the sin of stealing ....I forgive you already, but you had better clear it with God, lest you die in unrepentant sin and go to Hell....
 

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You trample on the blood of Jesus by teaching that it does not have the power to sanctify a man (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and to cleanse him from all sin (see 1 John 1:7).

I calmly and kindly explained how we were really on the same page about this, we were simply using our words differently.....
Shame you reject that “peace branch” with a lie....” deceivers gonna deceive”..... why did I hope for anything different....
 

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I calmly and kindly explained how we were really on the same page about this, we were simply using our words differently...

Sorry, I must have missed that post.

You can retrieve it by placing your mouse on the top right corner of the post where there is a #...right click on it...you will be given the option of 'Copy Link Address"...left click on that.

Then, right click anywhere on the screen where you are posting, it will give you the option of "Paste"...left-click on that and the link will be there on the screen.

...” deceivers gonna deceive”...

:rolleyes:

Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:41-42...

You have three fingers pointing back at you.
 
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You wouldn't recognize something like that if it bit you in the butt.

It was Sinful to say that word ! You know the word I am talking about! Where did you get it ? Lol..... better repent —- and FAST!
You sound more like BB every day! There may be hope for you yet! You are still in my prayers ! Maybe God is answering them...you appear to actually be loosening up a bit.....even though now you are guilty of the sin of Stealing.....imitation is the sincerest form of flattery....but you need to repent of the sin of stealing ....I forgive you already, but you had better clear it with God, lest you die in unrepentant sin and go to Hell....
I didn't steal it from you...

But if you are going to judge me for using it when while you admit that you have used it yourself, just know that you will be judged by the Lord in kind...
 

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You trample on the blood of Jesus by teaching that it does not have the power to sanctify a man (see Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and to cleanse him from all sin (see 1 John 1:7).

The blood of Jesus does indeed have the power to cleanse from all sin; and if so, why do you teach that people don’t have to walk in this liberty of being free from sin?
 
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Every time I try to tell you that salvation isn't based on works but on grace.

Does grace enable us to do good works?

Suffering Necessary part of Salvation!

Heb 2:9-10 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

He is our model in everything!

Patience Implies suffering!

In order to bear fruit we must deny ourself, suffer, and die!

John 12:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Jn 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Our principal means of dying is baptism!

Rom 6:4
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:3
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?


More. Verses about suffering:

Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

John 12:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

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He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

Romans 5:3
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Romans 5:4
And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

2 Thessalonians 1:5
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Phil 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

James 1:2-8
My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

Hebrews 12:4
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

1 Peter 2:20
For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
 
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