No authority!

[theefaith]

It is the reason the Catholic church, particularly, is the most corrupt and rich church on the planet, lol.

it is the only church on the planet!
Jn 10:16

 

[Ferris Bueller]

what does this verse indicate to you?
Jn 1:29

John 1:29 is a reference to Jesus being the fulfillment of the lawful requirement for a Passover Lamb.

...Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7
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I don't think we should complicate it beyond that, or worse, use it to defend a denominationally driven agenda. We should just appreciate the truth it represents and leave it at that, the way God intended.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

it is the only church on the planet!
Jn 10:16

No, every true believer on the planet is the church. True believers themselves are the stones of the temple of God where his Spirit resides. He does not dwell in a religious organization.

 

[amigo de christo]

The Bible doesn't give 'seeing Jesus' as a criteria for ordination. The next generation after the Apostles, and the next after that, and so on, had bishops. You don't like what they wrote, so you dismiss or ignore it.

The testimony of the early Church is deafening in its unanimous (yes, unanimous) assertion of apostolic succession. Far from being discussed by only a few, scattered writers, the belief that the apostles handed on their authority to others was one of the most frequently and vociferously defended doctrines in the first centuries of Christianity.
What is the biblical support for apostolic succession?

Oh there was and is succession . BUT IT AINT ROME . That church is tanked big time . And francis has to be the most deceptive pope
i ever seen . Follow that man ..........NEVER .

 

[amigo de christo]

Hey, I'm honest. At least it shows you I'm not servicing some kind of agenda here except the truth itself.

Exactly my friend . We got corruption all over the place within so called christendom .
TIME for bibles and learning the original pattern .

 

[amigo de christo]

John 1:29 is a reference to Jesus being the fulfillment of the lawful requirement for a Passover Lamb.

...Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7
​

I don't think we should complicate it beyond that, or worse, use it to defend a denominationally driven agenda. We should just appreciate the truth it represents and leave it at that, the way God intended.

exactly .

 

[amigo de christo]

Name one?

You have no desire to hear my friend . I have seen many folks showing you the contradictions .
And all you do is reject it .
If holding to these popes and your beloved vatican and traditoins is what you seek , I cant give you any increase .
You keep overlooking the simplicity of simple things that some folks tell you .
Look , every plant which GOD has not planted shall indeed be rooted up . As JESUS said leave them be .
All i can do is warn as others have . But if you want your religoin and cannot let go , I am not GOD . NOR do i claim to be .
ALL i can do is point to the biblical JESUS , to truth , to the simplicity in Christ . Whoever hears , hears by GOD
and whoever rejects and holds to men , Holds to men and their traditions . I Do feel real sorrow for you . I really do .
IF we compared ours sins , most of yall would walk away feeling like saints and shaking your skulls at how on earth
GOD could have ever once had compassion on such a thing as me . BUT the GRACE OF GOD really does put a love for TRUTH
a changed heart within the one it enters . AND that love desires TRUTH ONLY . I am so sorrowful for you my friend .
But come out of many doctrines you must . Learn that bible again , learn it fresh and anew and cry unto the LORD .
I PROMISE GOD IS MERCIFUL and QUICK to forgive . But stay the course and you are in grave danger .

 

[amigo de christo]

it is the only church on the planet!
Jn 10:16

Let none ever join that church .
I have a simple question for you and i will not be offended at your answer .
Since i cling to and profess the biblical JESUS yet i deny that church . DO you feel in your heart that i am saved .
I will not be offended at your answer .

 

[amigo de christo]

No, every true believer on the planet is the church. True believers themselves are the stones of the temple of God where his Spirit resides. He does not dwell in a religious organization.

HE dont dwell in any house whose leaders are not truly OF HIM .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hey, I'm honest. At least it shows you I'm not servicing some kind of agenda here except the truth itself.

You mean your own invented doctrines . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

It is the reason the Catholic church, particularly, is the most corrupt and rich church on the planet, lol.

Corrupt?
There are corrupt people in every ecclesial community because man has a fallen nature.

Rich?
I already told you where the money goes.
The LARGEST charitable organization on the planet - more than most nations.


Oh, I almost forgot - ummm, "lol" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Where is this organization that represents all of the pure truths of the first church? Don't say the Catholic church. We've been showing you how wrong and corrupt it is. There is no organization at this time that truly represents and lives out all the truths given us in the pages of the Bible. There are some that are closer than others. But none are true to all the truths of the Bible. We true believers are dispersed among all these organizations that all claim to be the one true church. The sum total of us true believers are the church, not the organizations that say they are the true church. And the gates of hell will not prevail against that church.

The Catholic Church.
It certainly isn't any sect that came 1500 years later.

If you're going to try and say that it's NOT the true Church because there are sinful people IN it - we were warned that there would be sinful peple IN the Church by Jesus (Matt. 7:15-20, 13:24-43) .
He Himself picked a devil to be one of His Apostles (John 6:70-71).

 

[theefaith]

John 1:29 is a reference to Jesus being the fulfillment of the lawful requirement for a Passover Lamb.

...Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7
​

I don't think we should complicate it beyond that, or worse, use it to defend a denominationally driven agenda. We should just appreciate the truth it represents and leave it at that, the way God intended.

what is the high priest required to say at the consummation of the Passover sacrifice?

 

[theefaith]

No, every true believer on the planet is the church. True believers themselves are the stones of the temple of God where his Spirit resides. He does not dwell in a religious organization.

Why did He create one?

 

[theefaith]

Let none ever join that church .
I have a simple question for you and i will not be offended at your answer .
Since i cling to and profess the biblical JESUS yet i deny that church . DO you feel in your heart that i am saved .
I will not be offended at your answer .

no outside the church of Christ there is no salvation!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

You mean your own invented doctrines . . .

Correct. I'm not serving an agenda of my own invented doctrines.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Oh, I almost forgot - ummm, "lol" . . .

Yes, keep it light hearted! Don't be so serious!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The Catholic Church.

The Catholic church is one of the farthest from the truth! I used to wonder why God devoted so much NT space to the danger of the works gospel because virtually all churches that I knew of understood the truth about that very, very well. Then I realized there are a billion or so people living in the works gospel on the other side of the fence from us protesters.

It certainly isn't any sect that came 1500 years later.

No, probably not. But I do give them credit for not pushing the works gospel.

If you're going to try and say that it's NOT the true Church because there are sinful people IN it - we were warned that there would be sinful peple IN the Church by Jesus (Matt. 7:15-20, 13:24-43) .

It's not just that there are sinful people in the Catholic church. That alone is not the reason why it is not the one and only approved 'church'. It's that the Catholic church is based on the carnal teachings of spiritless, lost leaders.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

what is the high priest required to say at the consummation of the Passover sacrifice?

I won't pretend to know. I would have to revisit the passages in the law to remember what he says, if he's supposed to say something. Right off, I don't remember him having to say anything. But I do remember something about a wandering Aramean? Is that from the lawful rules of the Mosaic Passover? Feel free to fill us in. Whatever it is, did Jesus say it after he sacrificed himself as our Passover Lamb 2000 years ago, never having to be sacrificed again?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Why did He create one?

He did. It's composed of all the people who genuinely believe in Christ. In the beginning after the resurrection these people could indeed be found in groups that were in fact the true organization of God's people in the world. But as Paul prophesied would happen, savage wolves came in not too long after that and ended that. Now we exist scattered among the various man made religious organizations of the world. The true church of God where God dwells is now one stone here, another stone there, and still another stone over there. It does not exist as a religious organization in the world now. It will again one day, though. After the return of Christ.