Once Saved Always Saved

[marks]

Now, Romans 11:20-22...

Rom 11:20, Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21, For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22, Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Written to Christians:
Romans 11:22 (NKJV)
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

I'll come back to this tomorrow. I'm already late . . .

Much love!

 

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And just what performance do you think earns justification and salvation in non osas teaching?

Yours.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Defending God's Holy Word is acting like a child?

Gentiles are not individuals? lol

Glad you agree that those who don't abide in Jesus will be unsaved!
John 15:6 (NKJV)
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.

But they were in Christ and didn't abide there! They were saved!

How long will you continue attacking NON OSAS Christians?

I know one things

I am finished playing childish games

when your ready to stop crying and discuss the word look me up.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You shouldn't be implying I'm not saved. That won't work well on Judgment Day for you.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

If you think what I said judged you you must have a guilty complex

you should investigate that

again, when your ready to stop crying give me a yell

 

[FHII]

Ladies and gentlemen:

I'm out. This conversation is no longer interesting to me. If you have a question about something I said or want my view on something, ask now. Otherwise, I'm no longer following this thread.

 

[justbyfaith]

Two "believings", one that results in salvation, one that does not, just like in James.

Much love!

Yes; there is a lukewarm, nominal, or shallow faith (or, mere mental assent to the tenets of the gospel). A person with such a faith can fall away (Luke 8:13) or be cut off (Romans 11:20-22).

Such a person is saved from sin (Matthew 1:21, Titus 2:14) and the kingdom of hell; but only for a season: and is not saved from hell eternally and therefore does not have everlasting life. But they are "saved" by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9; see also Luke 8:12).

Then there is a heart faith that is unto righteousness (Romans 10:10) and enduring to the end (Matthew 10:22, Hebrews 3:6, Hebrews 3:14). Such a faith is unto everlasting life (John 6:47); because the person is sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 4:30, 2 Corinthians 1:22, 2 Corinthians 5:5) and instilled with an everlasting faith.

Such a person is predestinated to everlasting life. God sees them worshiping Him in heaven from the perspective of being outside of time; so in their personal lives from the perspective of time, He did and does and will do everything in His Omnipotent and sovereign power to make certain that they will be there worshiping Him in eternity.

Predestination according to foreknowledge.

Yours.

Mat 5:20, For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

 

[Waiting on him]

How?

Self generated faith. The kind that convinces you you won’t crap in your pants.

 

[Waiting on him]

How does anti-osas not give God all the glory?

It’s self centered, not Christ centered.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Self generated faith.

So you conjure up faith in yourself?

 

[Ezra]

Maybe you don't understand the importance of Biblical doctrines.

O I FULLY UNDERSTAND the importance the Big question is whose ? i can stay up with either one of you using scripture. if you notice i have yet to take ether side . so who has the correct Biblical doctrines? you or him . your dealing with interpretation's.. i preach a know so salvation

 

[Waiting on him]

So you conjure up faith in yourself?

It’s a fruit of the Holy Spirit. See what Jesus told his disciples when they asked Him to increase their faith.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

It’s self centered, not Christ centered.

How? What exactly is it that a non osaser does that glorifies himself and not God?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Yours.

And what specifically is that?

 

[justbyfaith]

It’s self centered, not Christ centered.

That strikes me as being a mere argument against the biblical concept that the person with a nominal, shallow, or lukewarm faith can fall away (Luke 8:13) and thus lose his salvation and be cut off (Romans 11:20-22).

But arguments will be dealt with by the weapons of our warfare which are not carnal but mighty in God for the pulling down of strongholds.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It’s a fruit of the Holy Spirit. See what Jesus told his disciples when they asked Him to increase their faith.

So it is god who leads us to faith, yes I agree

 

[Eternally Grateful]

How? What exactly is it that a non osaser does that glorifies himself and not God?

Thinks he has the power to maintain his salvation?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Thinks he has the power to maintain his salvation?

The exhortation in the Bible to keep believing means keep believing in the One who keeps you saved.

 

[justbyfaith]

It’s a fruit of the Holy Spirit. See what Jesus told his disciples when they asked Him to increase their faith.

He told them to let their attitude after all is said and done be that "I did what was my duty to do."

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The exhortation to keep believing found in the Bible means keep believing in the One who keeps you saved.

But you must do this of your own power and it’s your work not Gods

can you please answer why we must go to Mt Sinai, what can it teach us?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

But you must do this of your own power and it’s your work not Gods

Nobody can trust God except through God's gift of faith. That's what takes the boast out of our trusting. Besides, no where in the Bible does it say trusting God for the forgiveness of your sin is a work of self righteousness. It says it's exactly opposite of a work of self righteousness.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nobody can trust God except through God's gift of faith. That's what takes the boast out of our trusting. Besides, no where in the Bible does it say trusting God for the forgiveness of your sin is a work of self righteousness. It says it's exactly opposite of a work of self righteousness.

If this is true, then we can’t lose salvation because we would never lose faith. Because our faith is not from us but from God

Why won’t you answer my question?