Who is Jesus Christ?
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Wrangler
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Words are WHAT not Who. The Word of God was put in the prophets mouth. This does not equal God incarnate.
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The Word is called Him and He. Have you never read John 1?
John 1:1-3 (NKJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.
How many Kingdom Hall worshipers will burn in "everlasting fire" "forever and ever"?
Wrangler
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Note: it’s late at night as I write this, but later I will document all my points with scripture:
Who is Jesus?
Jesus is the one born of a virgin in Isaiah, who is the mighty God and everlasting Father.
He is co-creator of the world, and of everything that was made in the beginning in Genesis 1.
To leave heaven and come to earth as a man, He voluntarily left the form of God that He had by His very nature, and emptied Himself, setting aside all use of His divine power, and took the form of a humble servant.
After He left Gods form to take mans form, Yahweh became the Father of Jesus when He made a body for God the Logos to be born in.
Mary is the woman chosen by God to birth the body Yahweh made.
As a man on earth who set aside all use of His divine power, thus Jesus didn’t start His ministry of healing the sick, raising the dead, and casting out demons, until He received the Holy Spirit at His baptism.
He thereafter did His miracles by the Dunamis power of the Holy Spirit, that Father Yahweh anointed Him with. Acts 10:38
His main purpose for coming to earth as a man, was to to call sinners unto repentance; and give His life a ransom for many.
But while on earth as a servant and man, His secondary purpose was to be an example of how His followers can receive the same Holy Spirit Dunamis power Acts 1:8, He was anointed with to do His mighty works Acts 10:38, and to teach us how we should live.
He died physically on a cross, the sinless one for sinners, and took our place.
While His physical body was in a tomb on the surface of the earth, His spirit descended into the heart of the earth, where He preached to the spirits in prison.
These spirits were the Old Testament saints, for lack of a better term, who were held in a holding chamber in hades, because no soul could ascend to heaven until Messiah atoned for sins.
This chamber was called Abraham’s bosom, aka paradise, which is where the thief on the cross went.
When He rose, he emptied out paradise, which is why many saints also arose and went into the city, after His resurrection, whom He took with Him to heaven.
His resurrection was visible bodily, and He appeared for 40 days to His followers, who worshipped Him, before He ascended visibly and bodily to heaven on a cloud from Mount Olive - and this same Jesus will return to mount Olive at His second coming, exactly the same as He left, and will bring all the saints from heaven, with Him.
He will be seen by every eye when He returns on that cloud. Revelation 1:7
Now paradise is in heaven, and souls of the redeemed go straight to heaven, and Jesus will bring those souls from heaven with Him at His second coming.
Wrangler
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God raised Jesus. Acts 17:31.
Do you know the difference between being a passive, lifeless object (Jesus) from the one DOING THE ACTION (God)?
But it is true, 1 because the New Testament affirms it, 2 because Alma means a young virginal maiden, so it still says He will be born of a virgin. And 3 the virgin birth is a sign, it says - note that a non virgin having a child is common, that can’t be a sign, the sign is a virgin having a son.
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Wrangler
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John 1:1 Jesus is co-creator of the world - John 1:1. He made all things verse 3, He came into the world He made, verse 10, He was made flesh and dwelt among us verse 14.
Jesus made all things:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Jesus also raised Himself, and the Holy Spirit raised Jesus. The trinity in fact raised Him from the dead.
BTW the Holy Spirit indwells those born again by faith in Jesus, something else you aren’t aware of.
And Jesus was never lifeless. The body He incarnated in died - His spirit descended into the earth and preached to the spirits in prison there.
I’ve explained your proof text that you constantly use actually proves the trinity.
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