Repentance necessary for salvation.

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justbyfaith

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There is one God, but He governed differently mankind in each testament.

Why would God treat men differently in the new Testament than in the Old? Or, more accurately, why would He define repentance differently under the New Covenant?

Did He change (see Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8)?

We get saved first, then we are able to turn from sin.

Well, I would just say to you, since you think you are saved, turn from your sin.

Because if you don't you will be cast into the furnace of everlasting fire (Matthew 13:41-42, Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41).
 

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Why would God treat men differently in the new Testament than in the Old? Or, more accurately, why would He define repentance differently under the New Covenant?

Did He change (see Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8)?



Well, I would just say to you, since you think you are saved, turn from your sin.

Because if you don't you will be cast into the furnace of everlasting fire (Matthew 13:41-42, Matthew 7:23, Matthew 25:41).


God doesn't change but how He acts most certainly has from dispensation to dispensation.

As for turning from my sin. go back and re read my posts, this time with your brain connected. Then you won't sound so ignorant about what I have been saying1
 

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What is true in my life is irrelevant to the main issue...of what is the teaching of the holy scriptures.


Nice dodge. Do you still sin or not? do yo still have times of disobedience or not? According to you that means you have lost your salvation multiple times.

And according to your misreading of the Scriptures you have a big BIG BIG BIG BIG problem:

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.


AND:

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.


SO IF YOU HAVE SINNED WILLFULLY AFTER YOU HAVE RECIEVED THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH--DOOMED,DOOMED,DOOMED YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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What is true in my life is irrelevant to the main issue...of what is the teaching of the holy scriptures.


This is my prayer for you:

Ephesians 3:

16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

You are too focused on how you are doing and not enough on how much Jesus already did for you! You just don't seem to know how deep the Fathers love is for you.
 

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The ensuing spiritual struggle actually led to my salvation.

I wonder what the struggle was that led you to be such a devout legalist?
Oh that's right. You told us that Hebrews twisted you.
And i can agree with that.

Also, if a legalist publishes the work of a legalist, what has been accomplished.?
Dog do return to their vomit, and the'll eat each other's.
Its what they do.
Nothing new under the sun.
 

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I wonder what the struggle was that led you to be such a devout legalist?
Oh that's right. You told us that Hebrews twisted you.
And i can agree with that.

Also, if a legalist publishes the work of a legalist, what has been accomplished.?
Dog do return to their vomit, and the'll eat each other's.
Its what they do.
Nothing new under the sun.

It seems that many people have been coming against me in recent hours.

It only goes to show that the following scripture is faithful.

1Co 16:9, For a great door and effectual is opened unto me, and there are many adversaries.
 

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God doesn't change but how He acts most certainly has from dispensation to dispensation.

God doesn't change but how He acts does?

It seems to me that if He hasn't changed, His behaviour towards us isn't going to change either.

And also, even if His behaviour does change, His definition for words (like "repentance" is not going to change from dispensation to dispensation.

The Greek language may be limited as concerning words that mean to "make a 180-degree turn away from sin, death, hell, and satan, towards righteousness, life, heaven, and God"...while the Hebrew language may be more adequate in being able to provide a word with that definition.

Therefore, I would say that the definition of repentance in Hebrew just might carry over into the definition for repentance in the New Testament; since we are talking about the same God here.

Nice dodge. Do you still sin or not? do yo still have times of disobedience or not?

I do not sin in moments when I am abiding in Christ (1 John 3:6).

And the scripture is clear that it is possible to abide in Christ for ever more (1 John 2:17).
 
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It seems that many people have been coming against me in recent hours.
It only goes to show that the following scripture is faithful.
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All heretics try to play the martyr.
Its their grand delusion.
You feel some heat and think its the devil.
I assure you its not the devil you are feeling.
 

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I do not sin in moments when I am abiding in Christ (1 John 3:6).
(1 John 2:17).

So, when you were confessing your last sin, or when you will be confessing your next one.....were you abiding when you were sinning?

Your pretzel logic theology, is really just comical.

"water saves"..>>"well, i mean not exactly that, but, see, over here, it says that Noah".
I mean really, its just comical.

You dont even understand why a born again believer abides, "in Christ", as you think its you doing it, Mr Legalist.= "enduring to the end" self saver.
 

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God doesn't change but how He acts does?
It seems to me that if He hasn't changed, His behaviour towards us isn't going to change either.
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God's love does not change.
God's righteousness does not change.
God's Word does not change.
Jesus "the same yesterday, today, and forever".
ETC.

But, God's revelation changes, as defined by the changes you see occur in the word of God. (Bible)
Right now we are in the "time of the Gentiles'< but that is going to CHANGE Into the "Great Trib"., and that is gong to CHANGE.
Yet God changes not.
 

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All heretics try to play the martyr.
Its their grand delusion.
You feel some heat and think its the devil.
I assure you its not the devil you are feeling.
Truly, it is.

It certainly isn't Jesus.

For, He is fighting with me on all fronts.

Also, I am not attempting to play the martyr in quoting the verse in question.

I am saying by it that I am blessed; because what the verse is teaching is that I am going to have good success.
 
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And they are all "accidents", and you never sin willfully.
Uh huh.
And you never lie, except for that one.
(but that was an accident)

Rom 1:16, For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 

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Truly, it is.

It certainly isn't Jesus.

For, He is fighting with me on all fronts.

Try again.
See, Jesus does not disagree with His own Blood Atonement. So, if he "supported" you and your water and works and self effort legalism theology, He would be denying Himself.
So, you can believe that what you feel as your flesh, you think is God's Spirit.
Thats your reality.
 

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Rom 1:16, For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Quoting random verses, is not going to keep you from having to confess that you told us that all your sins are "accidents".

Quote a few more disconnected verses, if you want.
Try one from 1 John or Hebrews..... or James.
 

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The doctrines of baptisms have a biblical basis and they do not deny the blood atonement.

You appear to be counting on the fact that people are biblically illiterate and that therefore they will accept your theology.
 

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Try again.
See, Jesus does not disagree with His own Blood Atonement. So, if he "supported" you and your water and works and self effort legalism theology, He would be denying Himself.
So, you can believe that what you feel as your flesh, you think is God's Spirit.
Thats your reality.
I study to shew myself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.