Christians are not under the New Covenant

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Christians sometimes ask “Do the 10 commandments apply to us, or were they just for the Israelites?” The answer is no they do not apply to us, and yes they do!

A summary of the Sinaitic Law is “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind; and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Matthew 22:37-40). Jesus kept, and fulfilled, the Law Covenant by his death. By willingly sacrificing himself so that he should become man’s redeemer (which only he could do as he was the only perfect man since Adam), he was fulfilling the Law which declares that all under it must love God more than they love themselves, and that therefore they would so delight to do God’s will that they would gladly sacrifice their own will, and even their own life. It is declared that Jesus gave up his life joyfully – “I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart” (Psalms 40:8).

Jesus said, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil” (Matthew 5:17). The old Sinaitic Law Covenant was fulfilled by Jesus, and is therefore no more in effect. The Apostle Paul said, “In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away” (Hebrew 8:13). Paul also said “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster” (Galations 4:24-25).

The New Covenant, or Testament, has not yet gone into effect, so far as the world is concerned. The Law associated with the New Covenant will be the same unchanging Law of God, which declares divine opposition to sin, and divine favour and blessing for the righteous. This Law will be in effect during the Millennial age, when allowances will be made for mankind’s imperfections as they are gradually restored to human perfection. Thus it is written “This is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: … and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more” (Hebrews 8:10-12; Jeremiah 31:33-34). (This will be part of the “restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began” - Acts 3:21). The New Covenant is a covenant of forgiveness, blessing and restitution.

So the Law Covenant has been fulfilled and cancelled by Jesus and the New Covenant will be in operation during the Millennial age, but what of the interim? Is there any covenant in operation, and is there any law connected with it?

During the interim Gospel age God is selecting the members of the New Creation (the body of Christ), and a covenant is now in force, and it has a law. The Apostle Paul tells us that the Law “was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made” (Galatians 3:19). Therefore the Law Covenant given at Sinai was an addition to a previous covenant, and looking back we see that the Abrahamic Covenant was the original one, and that it had stood for 430 years before the Law Covenant was added - “the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect” (Galatians 3:17).

Therefore we see that when our Lord Jesus fulfilled the Law Covenant it left the original Abrahamic Covenant, just as it was before the Law was added, and this is the covenant under which the New Creation is being developed. The Abrahamic promise or Covenant was that “in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed” (Genesis 28:14). The Apostle explained that this seed refers to Christ - “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ” (Galatians 3:16), and added, “And if ye be Christ's, [if you become members in particular of the body of Christ] then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29).

Thus Christians are not under the Sinai or Law Covenant, so what law are we under? The Apostle said “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace” (Romans 6:14). However, this does not mean that we can willingly disobey the Sinaitic Law. When we became Christians we repented of our sinful ways, meaning we regretted them and changed direction, turning away from them (Strong’s concordance describes ‘repent’ as meaning “to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins”). Therefore, having turned away from our sinful ways, we should be trying to not sin, and as disobeying the Law covenant would be a sin we should be trying to obey the Law Covenant, even if we are no longer condemned under it if we fail to keep it completely.

When we consecrated our lives to God, we declared our love for God and his righteousness, and we became bound by the Law of Love. Our hope according to God’s promises is to become adopted sons of God (“he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will”, Ephesians 1:5, NIV), which means that we need to develop God likeness, and God is love. “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love” (1 John 4:8).

Jesus said, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets” (Matthew 22:37-40). He also said “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15), and “the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me” (John 14:24). So if we love God and Jesus we should try to obey God’s commandments and laws. “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous” (1 John 5:3).

Therefore, having been redeemed from condemnation due to sin, we should now be continually striving to live according to God’s righteous laws (even though we may not be able to succeed completely while still living in our imperfect human bodies). As the Apostle Paul said, “What then? Are we to sin, because we are not under the law but under grace? Of course not!” “We died to sin: how can we live in it any longer?” “We know that our old humanity has been crucified with Christ, for the destruction of the sinful self, so that we may no longer be slaves to sin, because death cancels the claims of sin. But if we thus died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him, knowing as we do that Christ, once raised from the dead, is never to die again: he is no longer under the dominion of death. When he died, he died to sin, once for all, and now that he lives, he lives to God. In the same way you must regard yourselves as dead to sin and alive to God, in union with Christ Jesus. Therefore sin must no longer reign in your mortal body, exacting obedience to the body’s desires. You must no longer put any part of it at sin’s disposal, as an implement for doing wrong. Put yourselves instead at the disposal of God; think of yourselves as raised from death to life, and yield your bodies to God as implements for doing right.” “When you were slaves of sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. And what gain did that bring you? Things that now make you ashamed, for their end is death. But now, freed from the commands of sin and bound to the service of God, you have gains that lead to holiness, and the end is eternal life. For sin pays a wage, and the wage is death, but God gives freely, and his gift is eternal life in union with Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:15,2,6-13,20-23 - REB).

Some people do not understand this and they quote 1 John 3:9 in order to accuse others of not being true Christians – “Whosoever is born [begotten] of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born [begotten] of God”. They think this means that if you commit just one sin, then you cannot be a true Christian, failing to understand that no Christian is completely righteous (Romans 3:10, Psalms 14:2-3) or perfect, and will not be until their resurrection. In the meantime we struggle to be overcomers of the temptations of the flesh, and the world, and Satan, and though we sometimes fail we must never give up trying, nor give up the desire to be righteous. Though we cannot yet be perfect in our thoughts, words and actions, we can have a desire to be perfect. “But if I do what I do not desire, it is no more I working it out, but sin dwelling in me” (Romans 7:20 - MKJV).
 
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Our Covenant of sacrifice

The Church is separate and distinct from the world in every particular. We are not under the old Law Covenant nor will we be under the New Law Covenant (or New Testament), but we are under a special Covenant of Sacrifice. God said, “Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice” (Psalms 50:5). The Day of Atonement sin offering sacrifices (detailed in Leviticus 16) reveal more about that Covenant of Sacrifice.

Most of us recognise that the annual Passover sacrifice of a lamb pointed forwards to Jesus’ sacrifice as the Lamb of God, when he sacrificed his life as a ransom for all mankind. However, we may not be so familiar with the other annual sacrifices made about six months later on the Day of Atonement. On that day the High Priest would provide a young bullock as a sin offering, and the people of Israel would provide two young goats for a sin offering. The High Priest would sacrifice the bullock for himself and for his household. The death of the bullock typified the death of Jesus, who offered up himself as a sin offering. Jesus was both the anointed High Priest of God and the sacrifice. In the type the High Priest applies the merit of his sacrifice (by sprinkling the blood of the bullock on the mercy seat) for himself and his household as atonement for sins, where he himself represented the Church - which is Christ’s Body, the antitypical Royal Priesthood - and his household (the tribe of Levi) represented the rest of the “household of faith” – the consecrated ones who fail to become members of the Body of Christ and instead will constitute “a great multitude” of spirit beings who will serve God in his temple (Revelation 7:9-17). Note that the Levites were set aside by God for His service and they were servants of the priests, and the name Levi means “joined to” (Genesis 29:34), just as the Church will be joined to Jesus as his bride.

In the antitype the merit of Jesus’ sacrifice, his own blood, is applied to the Church, who will become the antitypical Royal Priesthood and Levites (servants) of the “household of faith”. Note that the whole merit of Jesus’ sacrifice is applied to the Church only – it is not applied to the rest of the world. Jesus’ sacrifice was a ransom for all, but it has not yet been applied to all - “Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time” (1 Timothy 2:6).

After the priest sacrificed the bullock he then sacrificed one of the goats in the same way – the bullock and the goat were treated alike, with the blood of the goat also being sprinkled on the mercy seat. Note that these are two distinct sin-offering sacrifices – the bullock, supplied by the priest, and the goat, supplied by the people. In the antitype during this Gospel Age there are also two sin-offerings – Jesus and his Church, his Body. The bullock was sacrificed as a sin offering for the priest and his household, whereas the goat was sacrificed as a sin offering for the people. The bullock represented Jesus’ sacrifice of his own life, whereas the goat represents the sacrifice of the Church – the sacrifice of our lives. The merit of Jesus’ sacrifice has been applied to the Church, the antitypical Royal Priesthood and household of faith, and the Church must now follow Jesus’ example and sacrifice their lives also. This is the Covenant of Sacrifice that we make when we become baptised into Jesus’ death. We have had Jesus’ sacrificial merit applied to us, so that our sins are atoned for and we are justified and entitled to eternal life as perfect humans. However, we only receive this justification on condition that we covenant to sacrifice that right to life, just as our Lord Jesus sacrificed his right to eternal life as a human. In the type the sacrifice of the goat was for the people (the Israelites), and in the antitype the sacrifice of the Church’s right to human life is a sacrifice for the people - the rest of humankind.

The whole merit of Jesus’ sacrifice was applied to the Church, so the Church must sacrifice their lives in order that the merit may be returned and then applied to the rest of mankind. This is an ongoing process during the Gospel Age. At the end of the Gospel Age all of the merit of Jesus’ sacrifice will have been returned so that it can then be applied to the rest of mankind. The merit of Jesus’ sacrifice is appropriated to the Church, the elect, in order that we can have the privilege of joining our Lord Jesus as his “members”, to “become the sons of God” (John 1:12) and so that we will be entitled to be sharers in Jesus’ inheritance. As sharers of his sacrifice we enable his merit to be passed on to natural Israel and the world through the New Covenant.

Hence Paul wrote of the faithful Old Testament Israelites, “And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect” (Hebrews 11:39-40). He is saying that the faithful Old Testament Israelites would receive a “better resurrection” (verse 35) as a result of their faithfulness, that is they would be resurrected as perfect human beings immediately, rather than being raised still imperfect and then having to be restored to perfection during Christ’s Millennial Kingdom. However, they, and the rest of mankind, will have to wait until all of the Church has completed their sacrifice before Jesus’ sacrificial merit can be applied to them and they can be resurrected.

The apostle Paul, when speaking of the animal sacrifices and the New Covenant, said, “It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these” (Hebrews 9:23). These “better sacrifices” are the sacrifice of Jesus, the Christ Head, and the members of his Church, the Christ Body. The bullock and goat were the only animal sacrifices that were burnt outside of the camp (symbolising rejection by the world), hence Paul said, “Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach” (Hebrews 13:12-13).

Note that two goats were supplied by the people, and one of them was chosen for sacrifice by casting lots. This indicated that God does not arbitrarily choose which consecrated saints are to become members of the body of Christ – it is up to us to make our calling and election sure. The Lord’s goat lays down its life sacrificially, willingly, while the other goat becomes the scapegoat and is not sacrificed but it is sent into the wilderness to die unwillingly. The scapegoat is a type of the consecrated Christians who fail to fulfil the conditions of their sacrifice. These Christians fail to fully, willingly, sacrifice their earthy rights and their own will, and still seek the honour and favour of the world. They have their flesh destroyed under divine providence, that the spirit may be saved. They have been begotten of the Holy Spirit and cannot reassume their earthly rights and restitution blessings, so they cannot be resurrected as human beings, nor can they be resurrected with the immortal divine nature. They will be resurrected as mortal spirit beings, similar to the angels, and will serve God in his temple, though they will not be members of that symbolic temple which is the Christ.

“The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion [partnership or participation] of the blood of Christ?” (1 Corinthians 10:16).
 
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When you add and take away from the Gospel you commit a costly eternal sin.

You are on the wide and crooked path that leads to destruction by adding o God's words and taking away from them.

Turn away from sin and turn to Christ who alone can save you.

Read and pray the Gospel of John

Every word of God is [a]pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
6Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
 

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The remission of sin has occurred signifying that we are in the New Covenant:

Matthew 26:28

Hebrews 8:12-13

But, surely, not all the events that will occur with the institution of this New Covenant have come to pass yet. And I suppose that's what makes some people think we aren't in the New Covenant yet. But the forgiveness of sin and the writing of the law on the heart by the Holy Spirit show us it is indeed in effect right now. The old covenant has been laid aside and replaced with the New one prophesied in scripture.
 

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The remission of sin has occurred signifying that we are in the New Covenant:

Matthew 26:28
(Mat 26:28) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Yes, Jesus has shed his blood for the remission of sins, but that doesn't mean that all mankind is under the New Covenant - it means that mankind's sins can now be forgiven - in due time.

1 Timothy 2:6) Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Hebrews 8:12-13

But, surely, not all the events that will occur with the institution of this New Covenant have come to pass yet. And I suppose that's what makes some people think we aren't in the New Covenant yet. But the forgiveness of sin and the writing of the law on the heart by the Holy Spirit show us it is indeed in effect right now. The old covenant has been laid aside and replaced with the New one prophesied in scripture.
The Hebrews 8 passage is referring to God's future dealings with His chosen people Israel, not with Christians or the rest of mankind. The letter to the Hebrews was written to Jews (hence the name!).

Hebrews 8 (WEB):
8) For finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come”, says the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
10) “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be their God, and they will be my people.​

"The days come" is referring to after the Gospel age has come to an end.
 
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When you add and take away from the Gospel you commit a costly eternal sin.

You are on the wide and crooked path that leads to destruction by adding o God's words and taking away from them.
Another unhelpful comment! If you think that what I wrote is incorrect then please post the reason(s) why, quoting from the Bible to support your claims. Otherwise if you have nothing constructive to say then it is better to say nothing. Just saying "You're on the wrong path", or "That's rubbish", is not helpful to anybody.
 

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Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 
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Christians sometimes ask “Do the 10 commandments apply to us, or were they just for the Israelites?” The answer is no they do not apply to us, and yes they do!

A summary of the Sinaitic Law is “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind; and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Matthew 22:37-40). Jesus kept, and fulfilled, the Law Covenant by his death. By willingly sacrificing himself so that he should become man’s redeemer (which only he could do as he was the only perfect man since Adam), he was fulfilling the Law which declares that all under it must love God more than they love themselves, and that therefore they would so delight to do God’s will that they would gladly sacrifice their own will, and even their own life. It is declared that Jesus gave up his life joyfully – “I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart” (Psalms 40:8).

Jesus said, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil” (Matthew 5:17). The old Sinaitic Law Covenant was fulfilled by Jesus, and is therefore no more in effect. The Apostle Paul said, “In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away” (Hebrew 8:13). Paul also said “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster” (Galations 4:24,25).

The New Covenant, or Testament, has not yet gone into effect, so far as the world is concerned. The Law associated with the New Covenant will be the same unchanging Law of God, which declares divine opposition to sin, and divine favour and blessing for the righteous. This Law will be in effect during the Millennial age, when allowances will be made for mankind’s imperfections as they are gradually restored to human perfection. Thus it is written “This is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: … and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more” (Hebrews 8:10,12; Jeremiah 31:33,34). (This will be part of the “restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began” - Acts 3:21). The New Covenant is a covenant of forgiveness, blessing and restitution.

So the Law Covenant has been fulfilled and cancelled by Jesus and the New Covenant will be in operation during the Millennial age, but what of the interim? Is there any covenant in operation, and is there any law connected with it?

During the interim Gospel age God is selecting the members of the New Creation (the body of Christ), and a covenant is now in force, and it has a law. The Apostle Paul tells us that the Law “was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made” (Galatians 3:19). Therefore the Law Covenant given at Sinai was an addition to a previous covenant, and looking back we see that the Abrahamic Covenant was the original one, and that it had stood for 430 years before the Law Covenant was added - “the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect” (Galatians 3:17).

Therefore we see that when our Lord Jesus fulfilled the Law Covenant it left the original Abrahamic Covenant, just as it was before the Law was added, and this is the covenant under which the New Creation is being developed. The Abrahamic promise or Covenant was that “in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed” (Genesis 28:14). The Apostle explained that this seed refers to Christ - “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ” (Galatians 3:16), and added, “And if ye be Christ's, [if you become members in particular of the body of Christ] then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29).

Thus Christians are not under the Sinai or Law Covenant, so what law are we under? The Apostle said “For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace” (Romans 6:14). However, this does not mean that we can willingly disobey the Sinaitic Law. When we became Christians we repented of our sinful ways, meaning we regretted them and changed direction, turning away from them (Strong’s concordance describes ‘repent’ as meaning “to change one's mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one's past sins”). Therefore, having turned away from our sinful ways, we should be trying to not sin, and as disobeying the Law covenant would be a sin we should be trying to obey the Law Covenant, even if we are no longer condemned under it if we fail to keep it completely.

When we consecrated our lives to God, we declared our love for God and his righteousness, and we became bound by the Law of Love. Our hope according to God’s promises is to become adopted sons of God (“he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will”, Ephesians 1:5, NIV), which means that we need to develop God likeness, and God is love. “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love” (1 John 4:8).

Jesus said, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets” (Matthew 22:37-40). He also said “If ye love me, keep my commandments” (John 14:15), and “the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me” (John 14:24). So if we love God and Jesus we should try to obey God’s commandments and laws. “For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous” (1 John 5:3).

Therefore, having been redeemed from condemnation due to sin, we should now be continually striving to live according to God’s righteous laws (even though we may not be able to succeed completely while still living in our imperfect human bodies). As the Apostle Paul said, “What then? Are we to sin, because we are not under the law but under grace? Of course not!” “We died to sin: how can we live in it any longer?” “We know that our old humanity has been crucified with Christ, for the destruction of the sinful self, so that we may no longer be slaves to sin, because death cancels the claims of sin. But if we thus died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him, knowing as we do that Christ, once raised from the dead, is never to die again: he is no longer under the dominion of death. When he died, he died to sin, once for all, and now that he lives, he lives to God. In the same way you must regard yourselves as dead to sin and alive to God, in union with Christ Jesus. Therefore sin must no longer reign in your mortal body, exacting obedience to the body’s desires. You must no longer put any part of it at sin’s disposal, as an implement for doing wrong. Put yourselves instead at the disposal of God; think of yourselves as raised from death to life, and yield your bodies to God as implements for doing right.” “When you were slaves of sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. And what gain did that bring you? Things that now make you ashamed, for their end is death. But now, freed from the commands of sin and bound to the service of God, you have gains that lead to holiness, and the end is eternal life. For sin pays a wage, and the wage is death, but God gives freely, and his gift is eternal life in union with Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:15,2,6-13,20-23 - REB).

Some people do not understand this and they quote 1 John 3:9 in order to accuse others of not being true Christians – “Whosoever is born [begotten] of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born [begotten] of God”. They think this means that if you commit just one sin, then you cannot be a true Christian, failing to understand that no Christian is completely righteous (Romans 3:10, Psalms 14:2,3) or perfect, and will not be until their resurrection. In the meantime we struggle to be overcomers of the temptations of the flesh, and the world, and Satan, and though we sometimes fail we must never give up trying, nor give up the desire to be righteous. Though we cannot yet be perfect in our thoughts, words and actions, we can have a desire to be perfect. “But if I do what I do not desire, it is no more I working it out, but sin dwelling in me” (Romans 7:20 - MKJV).

Jehovah's Wittiness or not, they do not believe they are in the New Covenant with God....That is one of the big problems with the Jehovah's Witnesses. There is no salvation in their religion. As the name implies....Jehovah's Witnesses focus on the Old Testament and God the Father....even though after all this time, they do not know how to spell His name right.
 

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Major covenants!

God initiated each covenant and the mediator always remains on earth mediating the covenant except for Christ who made Peter His personal representative and vicar! (Matt 16:18)

Adam
(Marriage covenant)

Noah
(Family covenant)

Abraham
(Tribal covenant)

Moses:
(National covenant)

Jesus Christ:
(Universal covenant)

New and eternal covenant founded by Jesus Christ! Matt 16:18

Universal (Catholic)
World universal

Lk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. ( catholic universal)

Lk 2:31 prepared before the face of all (catholic) people

Jn 1:29 lamb of God who takes way the sins of the world

Jn 3:16 for God so loved the world

1 Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Lk 2: 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. (All people universal)

1 Tim 2:5 one mediator

Jn 10:16 One new covenant church
 

Ferris Bueller

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The Hebrews 8 passage is referring to God's future dealings with His chosen people Israel, not with Christians or the rest of mankind. The letter to the Hebrews was written to Jews (hence the name!).

Hebrews 8 (WEB):
8) For finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come”, says the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
10) “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
"The days come" is referring to after the Gospel age has come to an end.
No, all of Hebrews is about the ministry of Christ that is now, not the future, and which has replaced the old covenant.
 

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Jehovah's Wittiness or not, they do not believe they are in the New Covenant with God....That is one of the big problems with the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Why bring them up? I am not a Jehovah's Witness.
 

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Yes, Jesus has shed his blood for the remission of sins, but that doesn't mean that all mankind is under the New Covenant
It means the New Covenant is here, now.
His ministry in heaven is completed. And forgiveness for sin through faith is available, now, for whoever receives it.
 
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(Mat 26:28) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Yes, Jesus has shed his blood for the remission of sins, but that doesn't mean that all mankind is under the New Covenant - it means that mankind's sins can now be forgiven - in due time.

1 Timothy 2:6) Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


The Hebrews 8 passage is referring to God's future dealings with His chosen people Israel, not with Christians or the rest of mankind. The letter to the Hebrews was written to Jews (hence the name!).

Hebrews 8 (WEB):
8) For finding fault with them, he said, “Behold, the days come”, says the Lord, “that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah;
10) “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be their God, and they will be my people.​

"The days come" is referring to after the Gospel age has come to an end.
Why bring them up? I am not a Jehovah's Witness.
If you don't mind me asking, who are you?
 

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Another unhelpful comment! If you think that what I wrote is incorrect then please post the reason(s) why, quoting from the Bible to support your claims. Otherwise if you have nothing constructive to say then it is better to say nothing. Just saying "You're on the wrong path", or "That's rubbish", is not helpful to anybody.

I did post for you = Gospel of John = start there
 
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Christ replaced david as king
Lk 1:32-33
The new covenant church replaced Israel matt 21:43 matt 16:18-19
 
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Made this video on this subject.


If anyone is interested.
 
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