Everlasting Matt 25:41 is same meaning as Rev 20:10 never ending ?
Depends on how the word is used.
Rev 20:10
Matt 25:41
Some will die today and be cast forever into the Lake of Fire
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Depends on how the word is used.
Rev 20:10
Matt 25:41
So you don't believe "everlasting life" is everlasting?
Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life.
"Ages of the ages" does not deny everlasting punishment.
I'm asking where does Rev 20:15 teach the torment is forever & ever, not the duration of the fire
The "duration of the fire" is FOREVER! Why would Jesus warn HUMANS several times of THE FIRE?
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Take a valium Jack & calm down.
Yes I've read Matt 25:46.
There are WELL MEANING people on both sides of the argument.
If I'm asked if the torment lasts forever I simply say some say yes, others say no & others like me, not sure.
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The point is moot though if a person trusts only the death/burial/resurrection of Christ.
I'm very calm. Keep your valium.
Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
You still evaded my question: Why would Jesus warn HUMANS several times of THE FIRE?
Evade ?
Where did I claim that Jesus did not warn HUMANS of THE FIRE ?
I questioned the DURATION in Rev 20:15 which you can't answer.
You obviously believe a JUST GOD would allow a truly wonderful person who's been wrongly taught to suffer the same consequences as the devil, Hitler, Stalin etc
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You don't believe humans can be alive in THE FIRE? Millions of 'Christians' sit in church and listen to Satan's ministers. When they get home they never STUDY the Bible like their eternity depends on it. Don't blame God!
So now you resort to personal insults! The Bible does insult LOTS of 'Christians'! BILLIONS of humans will burn FOREVER! Jesus said so. There may still be hope for you tho.
Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
Do you disagree with what Christ through Paul taught is required of a person today to be saved ?
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Who did Christ select as the Apostle & Minister to the Gentiles ?
Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, ...
Rom 11:13
For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles...
Rom 15:16
That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God...
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The other Apostles agreed & knew who taught who
Gal 2:2
And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles,....
Gal 2:7
But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:9
And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
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What is the role of an Apostle/Minister ?
To teach THEIR audience.
BUT NOW there are NO SEPARATE audiences ALL are equal :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
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How are believers 'today' saved, sealed, justified, made righteous ?
By the SAVING Gospel that applies today.
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Cor 15:1-4
1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Eph 1:13
13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
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The PERFORMANCE conditions :-
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
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Your 'deeds'/works/behavior/performance only decide your eternal rewards/loss
Rom 14:10
10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
1 Cor 3:10-15
10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
2 Cor 5:10
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
From the CYB Statement of Faith: "Eternal separation from God occurs in hell."
And everyone who convinces people that there is no eternal Hell Fire will have very bloody hands on Judgment Day!
And everyone who convinces people that there is no eternal Hell Fire will have very bloody hands on Judgment Day!
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>>>>""Repent or be prepared to burn alive forever!
Tell us how sinless you are Mo
Tell us how you no longer sin Mo
Matt 25 Do you do this Mo ? Why not Mo ? You need to repent Mo !!
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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You also don’t see forever and ever in rev 21 or 22.
They have a “part” in. Now the devil and all that in rev 21 they are said to be there forever and ever whatever that means as in they are gone for good or what…
Haven’t studied it in a while but what’s interesting is the fire has Yeshua founded inside.
That can’t be all bad if people in the afterlife too can find Jesus.
Rev 21,22 are brand new pictures once the prior age ended.
Ain't nobody in Hell gonna find Jesus Matt. No doubt Satan loves that comment! There is ZERO parole from Hell Fire!
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Would GOD being JUST allow a loving, caring, wonderful person who has been ignorantly incorrectly taught Salvation to suffer the same forever & ever torment that the devil will receive ?
Rev 20:12 seems to implicate leniency ?????
BookS << multiple books are used
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Why are you blaming God for those too lazy to STUDY the Bible? All your excuses do is lead people to Hell.
Hey @PeterAndroz i dont understand the question.
I never believe like the devil is saved but more of gotten rid up same with the false prophet.
I never got answers to those questions.
However after the books and stuff are all opened a new scene appears.
Revelation 21.22.
They are new pictures of what would be after the age ended.
The reminder of him coming quickly was to reiterate the beginning of the letter which he was coming quickly and the seven churches knew it.
I never believe like the devil is saved but more of gotten rid up same with the false prophet.
I never got answers to those questions.
However after the books and stuff are all opened a new scene appears.
Revelation 21.22.
They are new pictures of what would be after the age ended.
The reminder of him coming quickly was to reiterate the beginning of the letter which he was coming quickly and the seven churches knew it.
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