When “God Told Me” Becomes a License to Lie

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Yes, He is. But you have me all wrong, and your own understanding of the scriptures is apparently not working for you. And you should know that men do not judge the Spirit in those Christ sends, without consequence. Are you so perfect that you think you can judge if a donkey, or a pagan, or a king has authority from God? Are you so foolish?

And, no, binding and loosing in heaven what is on earth is given to His church--which does not include those who speak against the Spirit.
You are doing exactly what I warned against. You claim to speak by the Spirit, then suggest that anyone who questions you is speaking against the Spirit and will face consequences. That is not biblical authority. That is an attempt to place your interpretation beyond examination.

Scripture commands believers to test spiritual claims. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God” (1 John 4:1). Paul wrote, “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge” (1 Corinthians 14:29). The Bereans were called noble because they searched the Scriptures daily to determine whether Paul’s preaching was true (Acts 17:11). Even an apostle’s teaching was examined by Scripture, yet you act as though questioning your claims is questioning God.

Your references to a donkey, a pagan, or a king prove nothing about your authority. God speaking through Balaam’s donkey does not mean every person claiming divine revelation must be believed. God using pagan rulers does not place their words beyond judgment. The issue is not whether God can speak through whomever He chooses. The issue is whether God has spoken through you, and Scripture gives us the right and duty to test that claim.

You also misuse binding and loosing. Jesus did not give the church unlimited authority to declare private interpretations as revelation from heaven.
In Matthew 18, binding and loosing is connected to church discipline and agreement with Christ’s revealed will. The church does not create truth, and it does not bind heaven to the opinions of men. Heaven’s authority is not placed under your interpretation.

Calling me foolish does not answer the Scripture. Claiming spiritual authority does not establish spiritual authority. “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them” (Isaiah 8:20).

Your claims will be judged by the written Word of God. You are not above that test, and neither am I.
 
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You are doing exactly what I warned against. You claim to speak by the Spirit, then suggest that anyone who questions you is speaking against the Spirit and will face consequences. That is not biblical authority. That is an attempt to place your interpretation beyond examination.
I have not claimed anything that is mine.

But you have accused me because of your own unbelief, which you have indeed done to me--but not to me only. Meanwhile, you show yourself as not knowing what was [biblically] to come, and how. Your own unbelief has blinded you and caused you to take up with the accuser of the brethren.
 

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I have not reproduced it.
What you are doing is deceptive. You claim that Christ sent you, that your book reproduces the “little scroll” of Revelation 10, and then you claim that anyone who judges your claim is speaking against the Spirit. That is circular reasoning designed to place you beyond examination. You are using your own claim of divine authority as proof that your claim must not be questioned.

Scripture says the exact opposite. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God” (1 John 4:1). “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge” (1 Corinthians 14:29). Even Paul’s preaching was examined by the Scriptures, and the Bereans were called noble for doing it (Acts 17:11). You are not above the test God required even for apostolic preaching.

Instead of providing biblical evidence, you threaten those who examine you. You say they have “no say,” warn that what they have will be taken away, and claim that judging your alleged authority will bring consequences. Then you accuse them of bearing false witness. That is spiritual intimidation, not biblical proof. You are trying to make questioning ScottA equal to questioning God.

The issue is simple. Where does Scripture identify you as one sent by Christ to reveal the little scroll?
Where does Scripture say your book is the fulfillment of Revelation 10? You have not shown it. Your personal testimony concerning yourself does not establish divine authority. “He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him” (Proverbs 18:17).

Stop hiding behind threats and answer the question from Scripture. God warned, “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied” (Jeremiah 23:21). You do not prove that God sent you merely by declaring that He did. Your refusal to submit your claims to biblical examination does not expose those testing you. It exposes how little biblical foundation your claim actually has.

What you are doing is deceptive. You claim that God sent you and present yourself as one whom Christ sends. Your own website connects your book with the “little book” in Revelation and declares, “This is that time, and this is that book, now revealed!” Yet when that claim is tested, you tell your challengers that they have no say, warn that what they have will be taken from them, say that judging those Christ sends brings consequences, and invoke the punishment of a false witness. That is circular self-authorization. You are using your claim of divine authority as proof that your claim must not be judged.
 

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I have not claimed anything that is mine.

But you have accused me because of your own unbelief, which you have indeed done to me--but not to me only. Meanwhile, you show yourself as not knowing what was [biblically] to come, and how. Your own unbelief has blinded you and caused you to take up with the accuser of the brethren.
Saying, “I have not claimed anything that is mine,” does not answer the issue. You are still the man making the claim. You are the one presenting your words and your book as coming from God. Calling the claim God’s instead of yours does not prove that God actually gave it to you.

You have provided no Scripture identifying you as one sent to reveal the little book of Revelation 10. Instead of proving your claim, you accuse me of unbelief, blindness, and taking sides with “the accuser of the brethren.” That is not an answer. It is another attempt to make testing ScottA equal to opposing God.

Scripture commands believers to test spiritual claims. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God” (1 John 4:1). “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge” (1 Corinthians 14:29). Obeying those commands is not unbelief.

You are also misusing “the accuser of our brethren” from Revelation 12:10. Satan accuses God’s people before God. That verse does not forbid believers from judging doctrine or testing someone who claims to speak by the Spirit. If it did, the commands to test the spirits and judge prophecy would be meaningless.

The issue remains unanswered: Where does Scripture identify you, your book, or your message as the fulfillment of Revelation 10? Your claim that God sent you cannot serve as proof that God sent you. Your accusations against those testing you cannot replace biblical evidence.

Stop calling examination “unbelief” and answer from Scripture. Until you do, your claim remains an unproven claim made by a man about himself.
 

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When a Man Claims God Sent Him​

Readers of this thread need to understand what is actually being claimed here. ScottA is not merely offering a personal interpretation of Revelation. He presents himself as a man sent by God, connects his own book with the “little book” of Revelation 10, and then treats those who examine his claims as unbelieving, spiritually blind, or aligned with “the accuser of the brethren.”

That is a serious matter. When someone claims to speak or act under direct authority from God, Scripture does not tell us to accept the claim without examination. It commands us to test it.

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1).

Testing a claim of divine revelation is not unbelief. It is obedience to the Word of God. The more serious the claim, the more carefully it must be examined.

Paul wrote, “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge” (1 Corinthians 14:29). A man does not become exempt from judgment because he says the Spirit sent him. His claim to speak by the Spirit is the very reason his words must be judged.

The problem in this discussion is that biblical examination is being turned into an accusation against the person doing the examining. Instead of plainly proving the claim from Scripture, the person asking for proof is accused of unbelief, blindness, and siding with Satan. That is a deceptive way of answering because it shifts attention away from the claim and places pressure on the reader to accept it without proper testing.

Scripture warns repeatedly about men who claim divine authority without being sent by God. “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied” (Jeremiah 23:21).

A man saying that God sent him does not prove that God sent him. His personal experiences, visions, impressions, or testimony cannot establish divine authority. His claim must agree with the written Word of God. Jeremiah also wrote, “Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith” (Jeremiah 23:31).

That warning applies whenever a man attaches God’s authority to his own words without clear biblical proof. No one has the right to say or imply, “God gave me this message, and those who reject me are rejecting Him,” unless God has actually spoken.

His website connects his book with the “little book” in Revelation and declares, “This is that time, and this is that book, now revealed.” That is not an ordinary statement about Bible interpretation. It is a claim that his book fulfills biblical prophecy.

The question is simple. Where does Revelation 10 identify ScottA, his ministry, or his book?

The passage says that John took the little book from the angel and ate it. John was then told, “Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings” (Revelation 10:11). Nothing in that passage says that a man living centuries later would write, publish, and commercially sell the book.

Selling a Christian book is not automatically wrong. Many people write and sell books about the Bible. The serious problem begins when a man attaches divine authority and prophetic fulfillment to the book he is selling.

Micah warned about those who connected spiritual claims with personal gain: “The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us?” (Micah 3:11).

Peter also warned that false teachers would use religious language to take advantage of people: “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you” (2 Peter 2:3).

We should not pretend to know how much money anyone has made, nor should we claim to know every motive in another person’s heart. God alone knows the heart. What we can judge is the public claim and the visible conduct surrounding it.

Here is what can be seen. A commercially sold book is being presented as the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. The author presents himself as sent by God. When readers demand biblical proof, they are accused of unbelief, blindness, or siding with the accuser.

Readers should not be intimidated by that kind of language. No man has the right to place himself, his interpretation, or his book beyond the judgment of Scripture.

Paul said, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). The Bereans were called noble because they “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” (Acts 17:11).

The question remains unanswered. Where does Scripture say that ScottA was sent by God to reveal the little book of Revelation 10?

Until that claim is proved from Scripture, it should be rejected. His testimony cannot prove it. His website cannot prove it. His book cannot prove it. Accusations against those who test him cannot prove it. Scripture alone is the final authority.
 

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What you are doing is deceptive. You claim that Christ sent you, that your book reproduces the “little scroll” of Revelation 10, and then you claim that anyone who judges your claim is speaking against the Spirit. That is circular reasoning designed to place you beyond examination. You are using your own claim of divine authority as proof that your claim must not be questioned.

Scripture says the exact opposite. “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God” (1 John 4:1). “Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge” (1 Corinthians 14:29). Even Paul’s preaching was examined by the Scriptures, and the Bereans were called noble for doing it (Acts 17:11). You are not above the test God required even for apostolic preaching.

Instead of providing biblical evidence, you threaten those who examine you. You say they have “no say,” warn that what they have will be taken away, and claim that judging your alleged authority will bring consequences. Then you accuse them of bearing false witness. That is spiritual intimidation, not biblical proof. You are trying to make questioning ScottA equal to questioning God.

The issue is simple. Where does Scripture identify you as one sent by Christ to reveal the little scroll?
Where does Scripture say your book is the fulfillment of Revelation 10? You have not shown it. Your personal testimony concerning yourself does not establish divine authority. “He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him” (Proverbs 18:17).

Stop hiding behind threats and answer the question from Scripture. God warned, “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied” (Jeremiah 23:21). You do not prove that God sent you merely by declaring that He did. Your refusal to submit your claims to biblical examination does not expose those testing you. It exposes how little biblical foundation your claim actually has.

What you are doing is deceptive. You claim that God sent you and present yourself as one whom Christ sends. Your own website connects your book with the “little book” in Revelation and declares, “This is that time, and this is that book, now revealed!” Yet when that claim is tested, you tell your challengers that they have no say, warn that what they have will be taken from them, say that judging those Christ sends brings consequences, and invoke the punishment of a false witness. That is circular self-authorization. You are using your claim of divine authority as proof that your claim must not be judged.
I have spoken the truth as it was and is given to me by God to do. God knows, even if you continue to mock and deny it.
 

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Saying, “I have not claimed anything that is mine,” does not answer the issue. You are still the man making the claim. You are the one presenting your words and your book as coming from God. Calling the claim God’s instead of yours does not prove that God actually gave it to you.

You have provided no Scripture identifying you as one sent to reveal the little book of Revelation 10.
So? Proof is not required. Have you not read, "A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah?"

As for providing "no Scripture", I have provided volumes, and continue to do so even against your insolence.
 

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Some of the most dangerous words spoken in Christianity are not, “I reject the Bible.” They are, “God revealed something to me that the Bible does not say.”
I reject the premise of your claim. In my case, the Holy Spirit came to me with personal revelation, a message for my doctor. The Bible does not say what the Spirit told me but nothing I was told contradicts Scripture. In case you don't recall the event, I was told to tell my doctor to delay his upcoming missionary trip to Haiti. Another unsolicited saint told him after I did.

What you write is true only when there is contradiction with God's word, not more revelation.

Will you stand on what God has written, or surrender your discernment to someone who claims God told them more?
False Alternative. We can do both. In Acts, the Apostles were guided by the Living God. The Holy Spirit guided them and they followed that prompting EVEN THOUGH it wasn't in the Scriptures of the time (OT).