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Jesus taking away our sin means he forgave the guilt of that sin and ended its power over us. This is explained in Hebrews. It says this is true because of the superior ministry and sacrifice of Jesus. You make a horrible error in judgement when you say the church does not know this.
It is Epi who does not understand what the sacrifice of Jesus does. He's oblivious to Jesus being the blood sacrifice God requires by which men are forgiven and declared righteous, apart from the works of the law.
Which is interesting considering that you have some beliefs that are decidedly Reformed. For example, you say no born again person can sin unto death. You're OSAS and don't realize it.
ALL sin is unto death. In Christ, ALL sin is forgiven. There is no sin that Christ's ministry and sacrrifice can not forgive that the Levitical ministry and sacrifice couldn't:
Yes.
But someone might say, "but God forgives me." Okay. Then it's God's forgiveness that makes you righteous, not your works.
In the days of the Patriarchs, polygamy was allowed by God, and was even governed by the law, though technically it is adultery. It was, IMO, a gracious concession to mankind for the benefit of women as the weaker sex to find provision and security in marriage and family. This isn't so apparent to us in this age we're in now where women have big corporations and government in which to find provision and security.
And that's where her theology breaks down.
Because of unbelief and a desire to not give up our life here to find our life.
In Christ we are delivered from ALL sin. Forgiveness is never the point. Only habitual and dyed in the wool sinners are looking for forgiveness. Like criminals looking for amnesty. But a follower of Christ is looking for DELIVERANCE from sin...ALL sin. And the bible speaks of this ALL THE TIME. It's just that only faith can lay hold of the available grace that gives us that kind of victory. What the migrants here espouse is a NON assimilation into the kingdom realm culture...whereby they want God's support for being illegal squatters.
Jesus gave His life to buy back (redeem) the WORLD unto Himself. So you are very much missing the plan of God. It NEVER says for God so loved the church that He gave His only Son.
You missed what I was asking.
Now you're saying there is no forgiveness.
Jesus was given by God as a ransom to set us free from the just penalty of the law. You know how ransoms work, right? That means he exchanged places with us in our captivity to sin and he took the death penalty prescribed by the law for being in that place onto himself in our place. It is by his blood that he shed in our place that the justice of the law is satisfied, not your works. With his justice having been satisfied there is no debt of law remaining to condemn the believer. He is forgiven and set free from both the guilt of sin, and the bondage of sin by having faith in and receiving Christ's ransom on our behalf (even Reformists believe this!).
So is righteousness found by doing right, or by having your unrighteousness forgiven and the righteousness of God credited to you as a free gift of his grace apart from your works?
Forgave the guilt of that sin, but not the sin, itself? Nonsense, as are most of the doctrines of the Reformation, including OSAS. Jesus came to "take away our sin." From where? The SOURCE. The old man, the sin nature itself, leaving us clean of all unrighteousness, which in 1 John 3 is lawlessness - mortal sins unto death.
18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.
The doctrines of the Reformation lead to death.
1 John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.
How did you get that out of what I said? I said:
