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Of course Jesus was the perfect lamb of God.
foreshadowed by Exodus 11 and 12
Please explain this.
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Of course Jesus was the perfect lamb of God.
foreshadowed by Exodus 11 and 12
1. Barnabas almost made into the bible. You don't like HIS words either?
2. Please tell me WHO put the circulating letters into ONE BOOK.
3. Since we're working with copies of manuscripts...do you believe we have the actual words of Jesus? (from right after Jesus died to your date of 200AD)
4. What was Peter wrong about before the resurrection and why was he a hypocrite? I don't know what you're speaking of.
5. Yes,,,the early fathers DID decide WHICH gospels and letters would go into the Bible.
6. Mary worship. Mary is not supposed to be worshipped. If some Catholic wishes to worship her (which the CC says is wrong) I think Jesus won't be too offended since she WAS His mother.
BTW...I'm protestant.
It is faith that keeps us saved.
It does say that He will cause us to walk in His statutes and in His judgments, however (Ezekiel 36:25-27).
That they are not.
If we are going to obey God, the Lord doesn't want it to be out of obligation (this principle is found in 2 Corinthians 9:7).
Personally, I believe in entire sanctification; that is, that a man is perfected (practically) through the blood of Jesus and a work of the Holy Spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 John 3:9, Hebrews 10:29, Hebrews 13:12).
This may be brought about immediately in the heart of the Christian (see Acts 15:9 for an example) or through a general process in which the believer is made more holy over time (see Proverbs 4:18).
Most assuredly, the gift of God's love in our heart is absolutely freely given to us by God;
But of course it is the nature of love that it will cost us something to live by it.
Love by nature is unselfish.
The acronym JOY has been given: Jesus, Others, You.
This is the recipe for joy, that we serve people in that order.
So then, the cost of living by love is that we must put Jesus first, others second, and ourselves last.
The joy that we receive as a result is a major part of the gift.
1Pe 1:6, Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
1Pe 1:7, That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
1Pe 1:8, Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
1Pe 1:9, Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Jesus said Himself that we are to count the cost.
And we are to be ready....
Luke 12:40
Luke 14:28
What is free?
There is some debate about this.
Grace is definitely free.
Faith is free.
Salvation is free.
And as to Ephesians 2:8.
most theologians believe a combination of the three is free.
So we receive freely.
But there is a great cost to keeping what we received freely.
Jesus said there is a cost.
Luke 14:28 and we should consider this cost carefully before deciding to walk with HIM and be His disciple.
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I added NOTHING to "scripture". Simply distinguishing the Bible to writings that are NOT included in the canon, and I am pretty sure you already know that Mark. You can say "what I do or do NOT want to "understand" and it changes nothing because YOU do not know a thing about that, zip. Oh yeah, I am so very CONTENT TO SPREAD UNTRUTH AND MISINFORMATION!??! Wow. So, your bible does not say that the scriptures are God breathed? God id God and if some book, or writings are NOT in our bible it simply means that GOD DID NOT WANT IT THERE. Read all the extra biblical stuff you want to, nothing wrong with that just, don't be calling it scripture and yes, scripture IS holy...is not Jesus holy? Is not The Word in John 3:16 speaking of Jesus?
Mark, you have accused me of spreading un-truths and misinformation...AND, on top of it you say I'm content doing that! And, I think it is YOU who needs to be "cured" of muddled understanding. You complicate the simplest things and, over the last year plus, I've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to decipher your posts and STILL get nowhere so, yeah - I will stick with what makes sense to me and that is the Bible. The other writings are very interesting and help in study; timing of events and such but, they are NOT scripture.
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okay, ty, and i honestly wish you the best of luck in your quest to attain immortaility ok. Ah well i guess your search is really over, huh, no questing at all. So, i hope that magic incantation you uttered actually works out for you, i guess
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yes, i would accuse you both of that but i remember being a mithraist, and i'm not sure as high as you are that you are even accountable. Exactly what the apparent constitutional inability to address certain Scriptures means, i cant even say. Dont recall ever going there myself. But i do vaguely grasp the very strong desire most ppl have for being accepted and respected by other ppl, surely even a valid survival mechanism. Its no fun when your family seeks to have you put away, basically.
So yes i'm sure that me contesting that making professions in a mortgaged building you call church and calling that saved would come across as blasphemy too, but understand i am at least much comforted by the fact that i dont have to go run behind a tree whenever certain passages are invoked, and you do yeh? So how bout we just talk about the weather or something?
So do you believe it's our doctrine that saves us?
Why would believing a lie cause one to be lost?
Anyway, what TYPE of lie?
Does saying we don't need to obey God cause one to perhaps lose their soul be heeding that advice and having a false sense of security?
There are new Christians reading these posts.
Yeah, and I almost agreed with the post before that too, except I've never run across a man who walked in holiness all at once and maintained it.
Why go all the way back to Ezekiel?
Didn't any of the N.T. writers answer this question?
I repeat: The Holy Spirit will not FORCE US to follow in His ways.
WE must do the walking...with His help.
This was my question:
Do you suppose God wants us to say that obedience/works ARE necessary, or that they are not?
Above is your answer.
So, you ARE saying that obedience/works are not necessary AND it is not necessary to teach new Christians that they are to obey God.
You like Paul...what about this:
John 15:1-6
Looks like if we don't have good fruit we will be removed from the branch and burned. Doesn't sound like you gave the right answer.
You have no obligation toward God?
After what HE did for YOU?
Why can't you accept what Jesus says?
John 15:14 What's the problem with what Jesus says?
You've made conflicting statement, or I don't understand what you're saying.
You said you believe in ENTIRE SANCTIFICATION. This, as you must know,,,means that you believe you will be PERFECT in every way BEFORE you die.
(this is not taught in the N.T., btw)
THEN you stated that sanctification is a process where a believer is made MORE HOLY over time.
Which is it? Actually the second one is correct.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I don't know if it is impossible. I've just never met a man who died immediately.
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yet you are not aware of any avoiding of any of the implied questions in my posts to you earlier, right?Only mithraists talk about the weather.
See the scariest part to me is that you might actually believe what you are saying, ppl are actually giving you likes for that tripe and everything, "only mithraists talk about the weather" lol.
I mean why not just post pictures of cats or something, or avoid the subject entirely with me?
You have to double down on the evil intent, right, its required of you, basically?
You have to be perceived as the winner at all costs, right?
which is why we see GGs convo proceeding along the exact same parabola that we just went through, yes? No diff whatsoever. You really think that is going to work with God? Crack wise then, and get likes.
Its no problem for me, ok, i know how to send you scurrying behind your little tree any time i want, see, all i have to do is start Quoting Scripture, and you have to leave right
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No Son of Man may die for another's sins
You and your sons will be here with me
No one has ever gone up to heaven
There is only One Immortal
He who seeks to save his soul will lose it
All will be judged for their works done while in the body, whether good or evil
You and your sons will be here with me
No one has ever gone up to heaven
There is only One Immortal
He who seeks to save his soul will lose it
All will be judged for their works done while in the body, whether good or evil
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