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16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. - Galatians 3:16.

Nobody ever questions the fact that the seed of God was in Mary. You ever notice whatever religion it may be they will never question that. Especially Catholicism they are big on Mary being part of salvation, the virgin birth by the seed of God and so on. They take it to the extreme but they do not deny the fact the seed of God was in Mary. The other side of that is; many don't believe that the seed of God is in them just like Mary. Same seed different scenario, a birthing would take place and the seed of God would be placed in the believer body, you and I.

-The seed of God-
They want to believe it is just the Spirit of Christ somehow and it kind of happens like receiving the Holyspirit.
When it is not, in fact it is the person of Christ. He may be in Spirit form but you recieve Christ. Paul has it all personified in Christ, the person of Christ. Not some figment of imagination or just a pipe dream of someone gleaning from scripture. It is the person of Christ, you cannot get any more personal than that.

I remember having some feeling for that as a young believer but didn't understand it. I knew this personal relationship I was feeling was more than just some mystery feeling about Jesus Christ. It was more personal than any thing I had ever known or heard about. I didn't know what it was but it was personal. I remember when someone would talk about me finding religion my response was "it is a personal relationship and has nothing to do with religion." I didn't know much about it but I was going to investigate this marvelous thing that was happening.

It wasn't long and some very good teaching (God bless my early teachers they were tremendous) I began by the Spirit to see a few things in scripture. I need to share the assistant pastor in the first church I was in, saved in, he is still preaching teaching. A dear brother by the name of Jack Morgan. He and his wife were associates to A. B. Smith who came in through the tent and healing revival movement. He had been associated with A.A. Allen, Oral Roberts and many others. That was my start and it was a good start for me because I needed some sound structure in my life.

So I began to try to put my finger on what scripture was saying, for instance; I knew scripture talked about soul and spirit and even needing to divide it. So I would search for the dividing of soul and spirit. I knew I was saved at least I thought I was but I wanted the scriptures to bear out my salvation. Most of these things I searched were not proved out until I began to see Christ in the believer. That was the key, seeing Christ in the believer by the scriptures was turning out to be the key to scripture.

So long way around you come to see the seed of God in believers by a birthing, something God does, it is not of man. It is the same principle as Mary and the seed of God. It is in you from the time you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
 
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Good topic, and if you don't mind,
They take it to the extreme but they do not deny the fact the seed of God was in Mary.
yes, the seed was in Mary, but not "of" Mary.... :oops: big difference. and yes that seed is Spiritual, the Holy Spirit, who is the seed of, his seed, which means he's the "Father"... Uh O .... YIKES!.

and true many Roman... catholic, not catholic, but Roman catholic try to put Mary right next to our saviour. and elivate her above other women, when the bible clearly say, "amoung women".

so I'll stick to the topic, that seed, ONE, is Christ, who as the bible say. "proceeded" from the Holy Spirit. (John 8:42) kjv

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16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. - Galatians 3:16.

Nobody ever questions the fact that the seed of God was in Mary. You ever notice whatever religion it may be they will never question that. Especially Catholicism they are big on Mary being part of salvation, the virgin birth by the seed of God and so on. They take it to the extreme but they do not deny the fact the seed of God was in Mary. The other side of that is; many don't believe that the seed of God is in them just like Mary. Same seed different scenario, a birthing would take place and the seed of God would be placed in the believer body, you and I.

-The seed of God-
They want to believe it is just the Spirit of Christ somehow and it kind of happens like receiving the Holyspirit.
When it is not, in fact it is the person of Christ. He may be in Spirit form but you recieve Christ. Paul has it all personified in Christ, the person of Christ. Not some figment of imagination or just a pipe dream of someone gleaning from scripture. It is the person of Christ, you cannot get any more personal than that.

I remember having some feeling for that as a young believer but didn't understand it. I knew this personal relationship I was feeling was more than just some mystery feeling about Jesus Christ. It was more personal than any thing I had ever known or heard about. I didn't know what it was but it was personal. I remember when someone would talk about me finding religion my response was "it is a personal relationship and has nothing to do with religion." I didn't know much about it but I was going to investigate this marvelous thing that was happening.

It wasn't long and some very good teaching (God bless my early teachers they were tremendous) I began by the Spirit to see a few things in scripture. I need to share the assistant pastor in the first church I was in, saved in, he is still preaching teaching. A dear brother by the name of Jack Morgan. He and his wife were associates to A. B. Smith who came in through the tent and healing revival movement. He had been associated with A.A. Allen, Oral Roberts and many others. That was my start and it was a good start for me because I needed some sound structure in my life.

So I began to try to put my finger on what scripture was saying, for instance; I knew scripture talked about soul and spirit and even needing to divide it. So I would search for the dividing of soul and spirit. I knew I was saved at least I thought I was but I wanted the scriptures to bear out my salvation. Most of these things I searched were not proved out until I began to see Christ in the believer. That was the key, seeing Christ in the believer by the scriptures was turning out to be the key to scripture.

So long way around you come to see the seed of God in believers by a birthing, something God does, it is not of man. It is the same principle as Mary and the seed of God. It is in you from the time you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.


theology of the RCC is most of the time way out there, some stop just short of worshiping Mary as a goddess, and your use of Galatians 3:16 is out of turn and way off base. Paul is simply explaining a difference between sons of Abraham and gentiles of which Galatians are. seed of Abraham and there seed (Galatian's seed).


God is a Spirit according to Jesus, so the indwelling of God is Spirit the Spirit that quickeneth, not a seed, and the correct interpretation of seed in Christ's case is:

Joh_7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

any thing outside of that is erroneous information.

and the parable of the sower would be way out of context of this subject, as far as using the seed metaphor.
 
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theology of the RCC is most of the time way out there, some stop just short of worshiping Mary as a goddess, and your use of Galatians 3:16 is out of turn and way off base. Paul is simply explaining a difference between sons of Abraham and gentiles of which Galatians are. seed of Abraham and there seed (Galatian's seed).


God is a Spirit according to Jesus, so the indwelling of God is Spirit the Spirit that quickeneth, not a seed, and the correct interpretation of seed in Christ's case is:

Joh_7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

any thing outside of that is erroneous information.

and the parable of the sower would be way out of context of this subject, as far as using the seed metaphor.
Hold on there you might want to read Galatians 3:29

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People need to understand two things.
A. the genealogy in Matthew 1 is not a biological genealogy of the Lord Jesus, but a Legal genealogy which shows the tranfer of POWER of this world.... a King is Born, and his Government is forever. so on Joseph legal side come the "KING".

B. and in Luke genealogy on Mary's side come the Legal tranfer of the priesthood, from the levitical priesthood to the Melchizedek priesthood.

these genealogies of Joseph and Mary are not biological genealogies, but "LEGAL" genealogies of the tranfer of POWER/Kingship, and priesthood/ecclesiastical.

theses are the genealogy of the KING PRIEST, Jesus. and in him is neither JEW nor GREEK, MALE nor FEMALE... ect.

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theology of the RCC is most of the time way out there, some stop just short of worshiping Mary as a goddess, and your use of Galatians 3:16 is out of turn and way off base. Paul is simply explaining a difference between sons of Abraham and gentiles of which Galatians are. seed of Abraham and there seed (Galatian's seed).


God is a Spirit according to Jesus, so the indwelling of God is Spirit the Spirit that quickeneth, not a seed, and the correct interpretation of seed in Christ's case is:

Joh_7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

any thing outside of that is erroneous information.

and the parable of the sower would be way out of context of this subject, as far as using the seed metaphor.

I don't see the seed as a metaphor. Js
 

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Hold on there you might want to read Galatians 3:29

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"according to the promise" hence according to the faith of Abraham read the whole chapter please.
 

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Simply put in scripture as the seed of God is Christ.

where does it say that? your creating an idea from your interpretation. you're not showing actual statements in scripture.
 

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Genesis: "Seed of the Woman".

Chronicles 17:11 "It shall happen, when your days are fulfilled that you must go to be with your fathers, that I will set up your seed after you, who shall be of your sons; and I will establish his kingdom."

Gospels: Parable of the sower. "He who sows the good seed is the son of man". "The seed is the Word of God".

Gospels: "Faith like grain of mustard seed."

Gospels: "The Kingdom of God is as if a man should cast seed on the earth, and should sleep and rise night and day, and the seed should spring up and grow, he doesn't know how.

Gospels: "Most certainly I tell you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains by itself alone. But if it dies, it bears much fruit."

Luke 1:55 "As he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and his seed forever."

Romans 9:7-8 "Neither, because they are Abraham's seed, are they all children. But, "In Isaac will your seed be called." That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as a seed."

Galatians 3:16-19-29 "Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He doesn't say, "To seeds," as of many, but as of one, "To your seed," which is Christ. .... It was added because of transgressions, until the seed should come to whom the promise has been made. .... If you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed...."

1 Peter 1:23 "having been born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which lives and remains forever."

1 John 3:10 "Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God."

Nazarene is related to Notzri "sprout/shoot/branch".

Mazzaroth/Zodiac: Virgo bearing wheat in her hand/hands is type of seed of the woman.
 
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John 8:42

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the word "seed" isn't even in there:

Joh 8:42  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 

do you even have any idea what the subject is.
 

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the word "seed" isn't even in there:

Joh 8:42  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 

do you even have any idea what the subject is.
thanks for the reply and second, examine the word "proceeded" there. and get back with me.

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I was referring to the sower parable not your OP.

the word "seed" isn't even in there:

Joh 8:42  Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 

do you even have any idea what the subject is.

Yes and the word father (God in this case) always represents seed, you cannot be a father without a seed. All of scripture is very descriptive concerning life in the seed (death life, and of coarse Christ life or seed of God). If we can see in scripture just the two seeds which that is all there is according to scripture, then the believer can stop trying to see where they fit in and know it is by the one seed now they are who they are. When we use the word human nature we are saying there is a third seed, which is not true there is only two (first Adam seed and last Adam seed). The notion that there is a human nature, sin nature, and God nature (3 nature's) has created alot of confusion for believers, thanks for your comments and good scriptures I don't think I know any bad scriptures :)
 

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Do you have a take on Genesis 3:15 ?

Gen 3:15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 

for the record no seed of God mentioned here. this is the first mention in scripture of the coming of Christ, via the woman note her seed, and in the context later in history of David's seed of which it has been shown that both Joseph and Mary were of. even though Joseph had nothing to do with it regarding seed.

its simple God is God who speaks in His Presence. any part of that gives Life according to the will of God expressed in His Word. just the Presence of God gives Life if it pleases Him to do so. there are no "seeds" involved nor necessary.


Luk 1:34  Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 
Luk 1:35  And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 

granted her seed was involved, but to fulfill what God said back in Gen 3, that's the way it went down. but it was the Presence of God.

Jesus came into the world as the sons of mem do and left the world in a lesser then most status, in order to go where men go and retrieve the lost. Jesus made the way for us to go where He went and is and goes.
 
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Why would Jesus say to them "your of your father the Devil." Was it because they were bad people maybe worse than others. No he could not say that, we are all born with the same stuff. So he addresses the nature. Great word on showing what mankind had in them from the beginning, a sinning rebel spirit nature. Rebel by the fact Lucifer was cast from heaven for his rebellion to be like God or to be God.

Another quick word on nature is; when Satan walked up on Jesus, scripture says he had nothing in him. What was that "he had nothing in him." Jesus father was God not Adam so he had a different nature. Though in earth living Jesus was 100 percent man and 100 percent God, the man part was just his body, soul, but not his nature.
 

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Gen 3:15  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 

for the record no seed of God mentioned here. this is the first mention in scripture of the coming of Christ, via the woman note her seed, and in the context later in history of David's seed of which it has been shown that both Joseph and Mary were of. even though Joseph had nothing to do with it regarding seed.

its simple God is God who speaks in His Presence. any part of that gives Life according to the will of God expressed in His Word. just the Presence of God gives Life if it pleases Him to do so. there are no "seeds" involved nor necessary.


Luk 1:34  Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 
Luk 1:35  And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 

granted her seed was involved, but to fulfill what God said back in Gen 3, that's the way it went down. but it was the Presence of God.

Jesus came into the world as the sons of mem do and left the world in a lesser then most status, in order to go where men go and retrieve the lost. Jesus made the way for us to go where He went and is and goes.

Thanks for the reply