Fasting: Does it actually do anything? Do you have a testimony?

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When Jesus was led into the wilderness to be tempted, He was led by the Spirit of God. He did not invite temptation. He went to the wilderness to be alone, to contemplate His mission and work. By fasting and prayer He was to brace Himself for the bloodstained path He must travel. But Satan knew that the Saviour had gone into the wilderness, and he thought this the best time to approach Him.

With Christ, as with the holy pair in Eden, appetite was the ground of the first great temptation. Just where the ruin began, the work of our redemption must begin. As by the indulgence of appetite Adam fell, so by the denial of appetite Christ must overcome. “And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He was afterward an hungred. And when the tempter came to Him, he said, If Thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But He answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”

When Christ said to the tempter, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God,” He repeated the words that, more than fourteen hundred years before, He had spoken to Israel: “The Lord thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness.... And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.” Deuteronomy 8:2, 3. In the wilderness, when all means of sustenance failed, God sent His people manna from heaven; and a sufficient and constant supply was given. This provision was to teach them that while they trusted in God and walked in His ways He would not forsake them. The Saviour now practiced the lesson He had taught to Israel. By the word of God succor had been given to the Hebrew host, and by the same word it would be given to Jesus. He awaited God's time to bring relief. He was in the wilderness in obedience to God, and He would not obtain food by following the suggestions of Satan. In the presence of the witnessing universe, He testified that it is a less calamity to suffer whatever may befall than to depart in any manner from the will of God.

When Jesus entered the wilderness, He was shut in by the Father's glory. Absorbed in communion with God, He was lifted above human weakness. But the glory departed, and He was left to battle with temptation. It was pressing upon Him every moment. His human nature shrank from the conflict that awaited Him. For forty days He fasted and prayed. Weak and emaciated from hunger, worn and haggard with mental agony, “His visage was so marred more than any man, and His form more than the sons of men.” Isaiah 52:14. Now was Satan's opportunity. Now he supposed that he could overcome Christ.

The uncontrolled indulgence and consequent disease and degradation that existed at Christ's first advent will again exist, with intensity of evil, before His second coming. Christ declares that the condition of the world will be as in the days before the Flood, and as in Sodom and Gomorrah. Every imagination of the thoughts of the heart will be evil continually. Upon the very verge of that fearful time we are now living, and to us should come home the lesson of the Saviour's fast. Only by the inexpressible anguish which Christ endured can we estimate the evil of unrestrained indulgence.
 
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When Jesus was led into the wilderness to be tempted, He was led by the Spirit of God. He did not invite temptation. He went to the wilderness to be alone, to contemplate His mission and work. By fasting and prayer He was to brace Himself for the bloodstained path He must travel. But Satan knew that the Saviour had gone into the wilderness, and he thought this the best time to approach Him.

With Christ, as with the holy pair in Eden, appetite was the ground of the first great temptation. Just where the ruin began, the work of our redemption must begin. As by the indulgence of appetite Adam fell, so by the denial of appetite Christ must overcome. “And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He was afterward an hungred. And when the tempter came to Him, he said, If Thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But He answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”

When Christ said to the tempter, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God,” He repeated the words that, more than fourteen hundred years before, He had spoken to Israel: “The Lord thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness.... And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live.” Deuteronomy 8:2, 3. In the wilderness, when all means of sustenance failed, God sent His people manna from heaven; and a sufficient and constant supply was given. This provision was to teach them that while they trusted in God and walked in His ways He would not forsake them. The Saviour now practiced the lesson He had taught to Israel. By the word of God succor had been given to the Hebrew host, and by the same word it would be given to Jesus. He awaited God's time to bring relief. He was in the wilderness in obedience to God, and He would not obtain food by following the suggestions of Satan. In the presence of the witnessing universe, He testified that it is a less calamity to suffer whatever may befall than to depart in any manner from the will of God.

When Jesus entered the wilderness, He was shut in by the Father's glory. Absorbed in communion with God, He was lifted above human weakness. But the glory departed, and He was left to battle with temptation. It was pressing upon Him every moment. His human nature shrank from the conflict that awaited Him. For forty days He fasted and prayed. Weak and emaciated from hunger, worn and haggard with mental agony, “His visage was so marred more than any man, and His form more than the sons of men.” Isaiah 52:14. Now was Satan's opportunity. Now he supposed that he could overcome Christ.

The uncontrolled indulgence and consequent disease and degradation that existed at Christ's first advent will again exist, with intensity of evil, before His second coming. Christ declares that the condition of the world will be as in the days before the Flood, and as in Sodom and Gomorrah. Every imagination of the thoughts of the heart will be evil continually. Upon the very verge of that fearful time we are now living, and to us should come home the lesson of the Saviour's fast. Only by the inexpressible anguish which Christ endured can we estimate the evil of unrestrained indulgence.
None of us have any real idea of the intensity of evil that will permeate the planet immediately before Christs coming. The level and depth of deception, the spiritual warfare that will accompany physical manifestations of demons walking the streets inciting violence and all manner of evil. Now is the time to prepare for such a situation. As the activity of fallen angels accompanied Christ's first coming, even more so shall they do for the second. And if Christ needed to fast and pray in preparation for his ministry among men at that time, so also do we at this time. Not only do we need to be spiritually prepared, but we also need to be physically prepared. As your video above showed, fasting can go a long way toward such a preparation.
 
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I listened to a preach on fasting from Derek Prince. There quite a few on YouTube.
 

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I listened to a preach on fasting from Derek Prince. There quite a few on YouTube.

And do you suppose the preaching was faithful to the word of God?

What Scripture references were used and were those passages compatible with fasting?
 

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And do you suppose the preaching was faithful to the word of God?

What Scripture references were used and were those passages compatible with fasting?
It absolutely was. Derek Prince was a man of God, a man of faith. You could try listening to one of the videos. Or you could read my blog.
 

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Can you elaborate as to the meaning of Acts 2:38? Many people have different interpretations as to how they perceive a verse to mean.

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Sure(thanks).

Acts 2:38 is a response to .."what shall we do"?(verse 37)

The answer to this was repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE remission of their sins.

Then the promise of the Holy Ghost is theirs.(verse 38).

There is only 1 interpretation, so to be part of the church that started at Pentecost, we must obey Acts 2:38.
 
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In response to post 11.
I've found that when I don't eat for too long a time, I get shaky.
So, for me, meat can and does lower the vibration...mine! Ha, ha.
What if there is a person in a third-world country who, while having access to another's net hook-up, doesn't eat very well and gets the shakes?
What if this person is struggling to learn English as a second language?
What if this person is trying to say that when they eat, they don't shake as much?
Or perhaps this person had the misfortune to be born of a family line that has historically worshiped beings we in the West recognize as fallen angels and demons?
I see this as a personal learning opportunity to grow, realizing that, on this forum, I don't know who I'm talking to.
Peace. :)
 

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In response to post 11.
I've found that when I don't eat for too long a time, I get shaky.
So, for me, meat can and does lower the vibration...mine! Ha, ha.
What if there is a person in a third-world country who, while having access to another's net hook-up, doesn't eat very well and gets the shakes?
What if this person is struggling to learn English as a second language?
What if this person is trying to say that when they eat, they don't shake as much?
Or perhaps this person had the misfortune to be born of a family line that has historically worshiped beings we in the West recognize as fallen angels and demons?
I see this as a personal learning opportunity to grow, realizing that, on this forum, I don't know who I'm talking to.
Peace. :)
Low blood sugar?
 
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In response to post 11.
I've found that when I don't eat for too long a time, I get shaky.
So, for me, meat can and does lower the vibration...mine! Ha, ha.
What if there is a person in a third-world country who, while having access to another's net hook-up, doesn't eat very well and gets the shakes?
What if this person is struggling to learn English as a second language?
What if this person is trying to say that when they eat, they don't shake as much?
Or perhaps this person had the misfortune to be born of a family line that has historically worshiped beings we in the West recognize as fallen angels and demons?
I see this as a personal learning opportunity to grow, realizing that, on this forum, I don't know who I'm talking to.
Peace. :)
Juice, or even extra water, sometimes helps with that.
 
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The juice that works best for me when fasting is canteloupe. I don't know why. I think people have different vitamins and minerals that they run low on first. Maybe that has something to do with it. I also like homemade V8-type juice.
 

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Juice, or even extra water, sometimes helps with that.
I drink water and juice as well as tea - no milk or sugar. And can only manage to miss breakfast and lunch. But I think if you are doing a fast for the right reasons God sees your heart and understands your circumstances and if it is done as a sacrifice he will see and hear your prayers. Some people have a regular fast day. I remember a talk by Derek Prince in which he spoke of coming to Christ while he was in the army and being led by God to fast once a week without really ynderstanding but he did it out of obedience.
 

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Sure(thanks).

Acts 2:38 is a response to .."what shall we do"?(verse 37)

The answer to this was repent, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE remission of their sins.

Then the promise of the Holy Ghost is theirs.(verse 38).

There is only 1 interpretation, so to be part of the church that started at Pentecost, we must obey Acts 2:38.

Thank you for trying to attempt to explain Acts 2:38 but I beg to differ.

The answer really is verse 41 but hold your finger here and go to the crux of the matter (Acts 1:8), when at Pentecost Peter stood up to preach and three thousand souls were saved.

Prior to Acts 1:8, Jesus told His disciples not to depart from Jerusalem to be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Was the Holy Spirit poured out the first time in Acts 1:8? Of course not! Believers receive the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion.

Acts 1:8 was God's economy to begin to evangelize the world by the power of the Holy Spirit and the proof is that by one preaching of Peter three thousand were saved.

To God Be The Glory
 

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Thank you for trying to attempt to explain Acts 2:38 but I beg to differ.

The answer really is verse 41 but hold your finger here and go to the crux of the matter (Acts 1:8), when at Pentecost Peter stood up to preach and three thousand souls were saved.

Prior to Acts 1:8, Jesus told His disciples not to depart from Jerusalem to be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. Was the Holy Spirit poured out the first time in Acts 1:8? Of course not! Believers receive the Holy Spirit at the moment of conversion.

Acts 1:8 was God's economy to begin to evangelize the world by the power of the Holy Spirit and the proof is that by one preaching of Peter three thousand were saved.

To God Be The Glory
Yes, the Holy Ghost was first POURED OUT in Acts 2.

Show me a verse prior to that where this event happened.

Thanks.
 

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Fasting: Does it actually do anything? Do you have a testimony?

It makes my stomach growl and feel hungry.
 
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Fasting: Does it actually do anything? Do you have a testimony?

It makes my stomach growl and feel hungry.
problem is...In and Out burger is walking distance from my house.
 
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Going to narrow this down as much as I can, so that it's not too long. I'll also try to keep it as clean as possible.

Some scriptures regarding fasting potentially being applicable to our times:


(Jesus in response to being questioned about why his disciples didn't' fast; implying they would after the cross.)




(The when here may be implying expectation. When, not if.)



(The fasting portion is removed in the NIV but present in the KJV.)


I previously had a bad experience with fasting myself. I remember fasting for up to eight days asking for God's help with something, and frankly, I just don't remember it being a good experience. I fasted a lot in that time, actually, and I don't really feel like I had God's help very much in that time. At the very least, I would have appreciated a clear "no" but I didn't get that either. I understand the purposes of fasting. (Mourning, guidance, God's protection, etc) but I don't feel like it helps. "Feel" being the keyword here, which our feelings tend to be inaccurate.

Things got worse for me, so I gave up on fasting, despite what the Bible says, but I am willing to open my heart up to the thought of it again, but looking for guidance from other Christians who have some understanding of it or a testimony. I felt so rejected after fasting, but it would give hope to hear that other people have had better experiences.

well, it isn't magic. Like any other prayer practice, it has the potential to help you recognize how close God is to you, already, but it isn't going to grant you any wishes. I do not fast for health reasons, but I do meditate on scripture.
 
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Going to narrow this down as much as I can, so that it's not too long. I'll also try to keep it as clean as possible.

Some scriptures regarding fasting potentially being applicable to our times:


(Jesus in response to being questioned about why his disciples didn't' fast; implying they would after the cross.)




(The when here may be implying expectation. When, not if.)



(The fasting portion is removed in the NIV but present in the KJV.)


I previously had a bad experience with fasting myself. I remember fasting for up to eight days asking for God's help with something, and frankly, I just don't remember it being a good experience. I fasted a lot in that time, actually, and I don't really feel like I had God's help very much in that time. At the very least, I would have appreciated a clear "no" but I didn't get that either. I understand the purposes of fasting. (Mourning, guidance, God's protection, etc) but I don't feel like it helps. "Feel" being the keyword here, which our feelings tend to be inaccurate.

Things got worse for me, so I gave up on fasting, despite what the Bible says, but I am willing to open my heart up to the thought of it again, but looking for guidance from other Christians who have some understanding of it or a testimony. I felt so rejected after fasting, but it would give hope to hear that other people have had better experiences.
Fasting weakens me and makes me more dependent on God.
 

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Yes, the Holy Ghost was first POURED OUT in Acts 2

I don't believe you got the gist of post #73.

Acts 2:38 was prophesied in Joel 2:28-29 to give power to the disciple to begin to evangelize the world, but the Holy Spirit has always been since the beginning of time.

Show me a verse prior to that where this event happened.

Since you only asked for one verse, here it is:

"Cast me not away from thy presence, and take not thy Holy Spirit from me." Psalms 51:11

To God Be The Glory
 
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It makes my stomach growl and feel hungry.

problem is...In and Out burger is walking distance from my house.

People tend to make fun about the things of God because they lack the knowledge and understanding of Scripture and reverence to God Almighty!

I repeat, there is no spiritual significance in fasting (abstaining from food), except to clean one's system.

Fasting is equivalent to witnessing as per Matthew 28:19 in God's perspective Isaiah 58:6.

To God Be The Glory