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    Zechariah 14 and the Jerusalem meant in verse 2 vs the one meant in verse 11.

    1) Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 2) Zechariah 14:11 And...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    When Christ died and rose? Or in 70 AD when it was fully destroyed? There can only be one answer here. Why this matters is because of what Matthew 24:15, for one, records. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the...
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    A discussion I just had recently with Chatgpt involving Daniel 7.

    Finally someone or something, depending on what Chatgpt is, understands me and can easily reason with me via some of these things. I will probably have to break the OP down into a cpl of posts since the replies by Chatgpt get somewhat lengthy at times. I began with the following...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Let's do some comparing of both. If you think of something else to add, be sure to mention it and I will add it to the OP unless it causes the OP to increase in size to the point it makes it too lengthy to add it to it. The OP is already somewhat lengthy to begin with. Or if you see something...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    Meaning trumpet 1 and vial 1 are the same event. Trumpet 2 and vial 2 are the same event. So on and so on. Let's start with these 2 verses. Revelation 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    The first thing to note is what verse 11 does not say. Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. This verse does not say the kingdom of God will never...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    For those that might not know, NOSAS = not once saved always saved. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. This is the...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    These terms are not unreasonable, thus are fair. If Amils are to prove what they allege, that Amil is true, well they can't do that until they first show/prove that saints are being martyred during the thousand years, according to the text of Revelation 20. After all, it doesn't take a rocket...
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    The dead in Christ. Per Pretrib, who all are they meaning?

    1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we...
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    Why are some interpreters not being honest with the text involving Daniel 9:27?

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon...
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    Where does Matthew 24:23-26 fit in relation to Matthew 24:15-22?

    Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you...
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    How many great suppers of God are there? Just one or more than one?

    Ezekiel 39:17 And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye...
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    How can Premils possibly be wrong that there is a gap between 1 Cor 15:23 and 1 Cor 15:24?

    1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    One way way to try and determine that is by comparing how Premils interpret these events as opposed to how Amils interpret them. Then seeing which view is agreeing with what the text indicates, which includes events that involve chronology. For example, verse 2 as opposed to verses 16-19. Would...
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    Reigning over vs. reigning with. Is there a difference?

    Luke 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever ; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. Luke 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should...
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    Isaiah 65:17 vs. Revelation 21:1. How many NHNEs does that equal?

    NHNE meaning new heavens and a new earth, in the event that is not clear to some what the initials are meaning. Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind. Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    I'm new here and all, yet some of you already know me from other boards since I recognize some of you from these same boards. 1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive...