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  1. Copperhead

    Is The Rapture A Literal Event?

    I don't have view on what translation is "better". Every translation has some errors in it. I compare several different versions on a regular basis. I really have a fondness for the KJV, but I also know it is fallible and drops the ball in some areas. That is a non sequitur. The Talmud...
  2. Copperhead

    Don't be left Behind on Rapture Day!!

    And I counter with the works of Dr. Kenneth Wuest (1893 - 1961), a premier Greek scholar and professor of NT Greek at Moody Bible Institute for several decades. He did a rather extensive treatise on the apostosia of 2 Thessalonians 2 as being "departure" without being "falling away", Rebellion...
  3. Copperhead

    Is The Rapture A Literal Event?

    Well, rapture as it pertains to the removal of the righteous is not found in our English Bibles, but it is in the Latin Vulgate. Rapturo is the Latin word used to translate the Greek "harpazo" which is the catching up. Rapture is just the Anglicized word of the Latin Rapturo. So the concept...
  4. Copperhead

    Is The Rapture A Literal Event?

    On that I would disagree... Those that are taken in Matthew 24, are those that are fit for destruction. The verses previous to that lay out what is in view.... Matthew 24:37-41 (NKJV) But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the...
  5. Copperhead

    Is The Rapture A Literal Event?

    Yeah, authorized by the Church of England. Many reformers did not accept that "authorization". I always get a kick out it when I here the "authorized" comment. No one seems to ask who it is authorized by. It is a great translation, but not an infallible one.
  6. Copperhead

    Is The Rapture A Literal Event?

    that's for sure. But seems to be the normal course of dialogue in this day.
  7. Copperhead

    Don't be left Behind on Rapture Day!!

    It sure did to Jerome when he put together the Latin Vulgate. Jerome used "dicessio" which is a physical, spatial departure. And every English translation prior to the KJV also translated apostasia as simply departure, a departure, the departure. etc. Without a direct object in the passage to...
  8. Copperhead

    King James Only

    You are exhibiting a myopic understanding of scripture. Of course the Holy Spirit uses idioms, allegories, puns, hyperbole, metaphors, symbols, etc and all sorts of rhetorical devices. Dozens and dozens of them. Many scholars have done extensive outlining of the rhetorical devices that are...
  9. Copperhead

    King James Only

    Yes. I believe the entire scripture to be Spirit inspired, 2 Timothy 3:16. And the high view that the Messiah and the Apostles gave the scripture supports that. Therefore the scripture is accurate as it was written down by each of the writers. Obviously Moshe was not in the Garden, nor was he...
  10. Copperhead

    Fake Gospels - Fake Christians - Fake Jews

    To show how others demean and relegate the Hebrew people to the trash heap of history. And likewise demeaning the scripture prophecies that show that national Israel would be restored right down the very year that Israel became a nation is 1948. It was a mathematical prophecy that was laid out...
  11. Copperhead

    King James Only

    So then, by your implication the oldest books of the Bible are not reliable? Just trying to see where you are going with that comment. Yeshua (Jesus) seemed to hold those older books as being trustworthy and reliable. And attributed their authorship to the what has been traditionally assumed...
  12. Copperhead

    King James Only

    Hmmm. The oldest manuscript of the Book of Isaiah is from the Dead Sea Scroll collection and it seems pretty incorrupt to those who have looked at it. You can see it in its entirety on display in Jerusalem.
  13. Copperhead

    King James Only

    Not really a point worth considering. It only leads to obfuscation of the issue. The point has been made that there are many very good translations, but they all have errors in one way or another. There is really no way to convey the entire meaning of a passage from the source language to...
  14. Copperhead

    King James Only

    Wow, that would be a very lengthy prose. If you really are interested, there is a lot of good material on the subject from some very good Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek scholars. Dr. John Ankerberg had a 8 or 9 show series revolving around KJV vs the modern translations with the editors of the...
  15. Copperhead

    Are Christians now going to be seen as threats to the nation?

    Wow. Probably more verbose than I would have stated things, but I tend to agree. I wore the uniform of U.S. for 7 years during the Cold War period, including Viet Nam. I saw first hand the decadence of Socialist governments. I am virulently anti Socialist. But I also know that Christians...
  16. Copperhead

    Don't be left Behind on Rapture Day!!

    Ok. You have continued to step over the line and insult and make slanderous accusations. You are no longer worthy of brotherly dialogue. You need to seek forgiveness. You definitely are not exhibiting the fruit of the spirit. I am not called to judge a person's justification, but I can...
  17. Copperhead

    Don't be left Behind on Rapture Day!!

    I don't hold that we are already in the tribulation period. Literally, the GT is indeed the last 3.5 years / 42 months not the full 7. Daniel 9:27 even suggests that. You really need to take a chill pill and not assume so much negative of other folks. But whomever shows up that is the false...
  18. Copperhead

    Don't be left Behind on Rapture Day!!

    Oh boy..... distortions, contrive, deceptions, etc You do know that it is sin to unjustly accuse and defame the brethren don't you? Distortion and deception implies a willful intent. Without knowing my motivation, you have no basis to make such accusations. And falsely accusing others is a...
  19. Copperhead

    King James Only

    I for one do not reject the KJV, but it is ridiculous to view the KJV as the only inspired translation. Not even the translators thought that it was perfect and said so in the preface to the original 1611. And the KJV underwent revisions since the original 1611 came out. I really like the...