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Hi Axehead, Regarding your allegation that I twist what you guys are saying, I refer you to dragonfly's post #691 which confirms what I understand about your doctrine. There was no twisting of what you said. Meaningful dialogue on scriptures was always going to be difficult because, as you...

Hi dragonfly, Axehead, and Epi Our gospels differ greatly. Your gospel requires perfect behavior as evidence of salvation, whilst for others here, like myself, we believe in the salvation as demonstrated through the thief on the cross. Dragonfly's claim that not actually walking in perfect...

Hi Axehead and dragonfly, Again, we differ in understanding on scriptures. You quote scriptures from the wrong perspective, that of being perfected by the flesh. I find your doctrine confusing based on the contrdictory claims made by you guys. The likes of Epi, whitestone, Prentis, claim...

Hi dragonfly, My apologies for putting you in the same category as Epi and whitestone. True, you have not directly accused others here of lawlessness as they did. But your support for their doctrine and your subtle suggestions that others here, like myself, are lawless, led me to put you guys...

Hi Dell, We see mention of the carnal verses spiritual minded man in several verses. Rom 7:14 but I am carnal, sold under sin (This speaks of the lost man, as you claimed). Rom 7:6-9 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind...

Hi dragonfly, The issue remains that the likes of Epi, prentis, whitestone, yourself, etc accuse Christians of being lawless and therefore lost. And that without any foundation. Yet none of you have achieved the perfect behavior you claim is evidence of salvation. My concern throughout this...

Again, you are offering no specifics. Remember you were the one accusing others here of being in fantasy by believing on Jesus. These same people you were accusing are righteous, holy and have love, joy, peace. Clearly you have some list of behaviors in mind to judge a Christian's lifestyle by...

Hi Epi, Whilst your description of 'claiming justification for oneself...claiming to understand the truth when one doesn't...giving lip service to God in empty praises...claiming to see and be rich when one is blind and naked...etc' certainly describes those who profess to know Him but by...

Hi Prentis, Is there any reason why your reluctance to answer my question?

Hi dragonfly, I have been finding it very difficult to get details on this 'lawlessness' you, Epi, Prentis, Axehead speak of. My previous request, post #657, was likewise unanswered. Can you explain in detail what is this 'law of God' that our lifestyle will be judged by? You guys preach that...

Hi Prentis, So you are speaking of the law of righteousness (10 commandments)?

Hi Prentis, Can you please explain (with scripture too) what is this lawlessness. What law do you speak of?. Thanks

Hi Prentis, Scripture states it's unbelief in Jesus that gets someone rejected. You however claim it's violation of God's laws that people get rejected over. What law are you talking about?

Hi Epi, Regarding 'unbelief', considering your approach here on this forum of telling others they are in fantasy if they believe on Jesus, and considering your doctrine that physical evidence of perfect behavior is required as an outworking of salvation, perhaps it's you who is in unbelief...

Hi Axehead and dragonfly, You worry so much over a 'lawless life' amongst Christians. BTW, can you explain what is a 'lawless life'? What law are you speaking of? Just as the thief on the cross, all who turn to Christ have the firstfruit, Christ Jesus. This makes them righteous, holy...

Hi Axehead, True, it's like we do speak different langauges. Even how we see grace differs. God's grace is demonstrated towards the thief on the cross without any outworking of his salvation. But you see grace as empowering us to live in perfect behavior and this being evidence of salvation...

Hi dragonfly, Such a looongg post !! :( Now, Rom 4:15 where no law is , there is no transgression. I agree Rom 5:12,14 says sin/death was in the world since Adam. All unrighteousness is sin (1John 5:17) and all mankind since Adam was unrighteous. And how do we become righteous? Either we...

Hi Epi, The sin unto death that the epistle of John speaks about is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. This sin will not be forgiven. As for the other sin (unbelief in Jesus) we see scripture often call for people to repent and turn back to God. Seeking to be made perfect by the flesh is unbelief...

Hi Axehead, We both understand scriptures differently. 1Cor 2:13-14 tells us scripture is spiritually discerned. In scripture we see God using words such as those described in Gal 5:19,20 to describe the rebellion of those who walk in the flesh. That is those who seek to establish their own...

Thanks brother dave. A good answer.