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It interesting to see the 'perfect behavior' group. Whitstone claims he's perfect in behavior (sinless, as he puts it), in spite of his behavior here showing otherwise. Epi and Prentis claim one day they will be continuously in perfect behavior, and they happen to be failing at the moment...

Hi brother dave, You have quoted good scriptures. Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 1Co 6:16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith...

Hi dragonfly and Axehead, God's word is spiritual. Consider 1Cor 2:12-14 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom...

Hi Hepzibah, You said that Satan has taken over many churches so that Christians live a lifestyle of sinning, repenting, sinning, repenting..... BUT, in post #49 you said ' I have walked in the state of entire sanctification for two periods the longest lasting for about 18 months,' As you...

Hi Hepzibah, I think your reply was meant under another topic instead. But, as you posted it here I might mention that it is related to the topic of grace anyway. Regarding the fornication 1Cor 5 speaks of, this is spiritual and not physical. We are saved by grace, but, to rebuild the things...

Hi Epi, Did you note Kidron's Topic, about sinlessness in Christ, is unblocked. They realized it was blocked by mistake. Obviously Kidron wasn't speaking heresy. Speaking of heresy, you still haven't been able to support from scripture your doctrine that perfect behavior is proof of one's...

Hi Hepzibah, Can you provide some scripture to support your understanding? How is it that the thief on the cross gets fast-tracked to the 'full revelation and knowledge of the full salvation Christ gained for us' whilst the rest of us have to go through a process to be delievered from the sin...

Hi Epi, You're concerned about alleged "mockers" challenging your post, yet your blind to your own reputation for mocking the faith of others here. :wacko: Like others here on this forum, I too began my walk in holiness (Rom 11:16) and remain so. I too am filled with the Spirit, have preached...

Hi mark s, It's interesting that this group preaching physical 'behavioral perfection' have diverse positions. Whitstone claims to have got there (his behavior here contradicted this though). Prentis and Epi believe one day they will reach behavioral perfection in this life (as proof of their...

Hi mark s, There are 2 groups here speaking of sinless perfection. You've already met whitestone who claims physical perfection in obedience (although his behavior on this forum showed otherwise). This group pushes for physical proof of sinlessness that confirms ones salvation. The other...

AMEN ! The thief on the cross who called Jesus 'Lord' is a good example. That day he was saved, righteous, holy (Rom 11:16), sanctified (Heb 10:10), perfected (Heb 10:14) and without sin (1John 3:9, 1Pet 4:1). And that without any physical proof of perfect lifestyle, as some here demand in...

Hi dragonfly, I not sure what exactly you were wanting me to address regarding an earlier post, but I suspect it's in regard to the following quote from your post #609. Is that correct? But those Christians who imagine their (continuing in) sin is now 'covered by the blood of Jesus' (an Old...

Hi dragonfly, I disagree with your view on sin. Instead, scriptures shows that Jesus set us free from sin (John 8:36, Rom 6:7, 1Pet 4:1, 1John 3:9). But your view that Christians are only partly free ( not habitually living a lifestyle of sin) is not supported in scripture. Regarding Rom 8:10...

Hi dragonfly, I going to have to disagree with your rejection of the body being dead as described in Rom 8:10. Christians walk by faith instead of looking for physical proof before accepting it. It's interesting you don't see your body as dead. Also, you said 'It is not uncommon for Christians...

Hi dragonfly, Just a quick note as it's bedtime here, but I have found your references to scriptures showing a lack of spiritual understanding. Can I suggest posts with not so many points so that individual issues can be discussed a bit more thoroughly. Hopefully this will make for shorter...

Hi Axehead, True, you did pose it as a question. My apologies. Physical fornication/adultery is sin. Any Christian doing wrong will not profit by it. Whether it be adultery or even a little white lie. But for Christians, the physical is DEAD because of sin. It was crucified with Christ. So...

Huh !!?? :huh: How would you construe that I'm trying to justify doing wrong in the physical? I guess I shouldn't be surprised really as those who judge righteousness by physical works of perfection in lifestyle often argue the strawman point that grace is seen by their opponents as a licence...

Hii Axehead, I'm slowly catching up in my replies. I note that Epi thought I was ignoring him even. I hope he understands now that I wasn't. I happen to have some time today being unable to work due to a bad cold. True,...walking according to the flesh leads to destruction/death. And scripture...

Hi Epi and whitestone, My 2 misguided friends. ^_^ Sorry Epi, I haven't been deliberately ignoring you. I did notice you agitating from the sidelines but you weren't offering any serious debate and I was too busy replying to dragonfly's long posts anyway. I will try to respond sometime...

Hi dragonfly, Thanks for the sympathy regards my cold, but really, my concern was that with the headaches and clogged head I have, whether I was getting worse at getting my message across and/or comprehending yours. Hopefully not. Forums are difficult enough to get a message across at the best...