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  1. Copperhead

    When to look for the rapture of the church

    One thing seems to come out in discussions such as these... what really are people putting their hope in? In some folk’s zealousness to discredit the pre-trib position, they almost seem to exhibit a hope that the Lord not gather the redeemed early in the game so they can be vindicated on...
  2. Copperhead

    When to look for the rapture of the church

    And trusting in Messiah to escape eternal punishment isn’t? We are all guilty of the death of Yeshua. As the Torah gave us an example, we flee to the city of refuge, which is Yeshua, to escape the avenger of blood, the Father. Folks can call redemption and the removal of the righteous escapism...
  3. Copperhead

    When to look for the rapture of the church

    But I am convinced that Daniel 9:27 is in play. For the covenant to be broken and the AOD to happen, there is the covenant being confirmed by this same character. So it could be that the man of sin being revealed is at that covenant affirmation, which he later breaks and sets up the AOD that...
  4. Copperhead

    When to look for the rapture of the church

    That could be true, if that was what was said. But a departure from the faith has been a major issue since the first century, and I gave examples from scripture. The only way to assert that the "departure" is from the faith is if that was what was said in the text. The only other instance of...
  5. Copperhead

    On the internet I found a solution to the Israel/Palestine conflict

    It might be an issue if there were such a group as Palestinians. There never was a Palestine country per se. The entire area was under Ottoman control until Britain got it after WW I and then it was called Trans Jordan. It wasn't until the 1960's that Palestinian became a major identifying...
  6. Copperhead

    When to look for the rapture of the church

    Well, if one is honest, the "falling away has been occurring before the church got out of the 1st century. Even Paul stated in Acts that all of Asia had heard the Gospel, yet several years later when he wrote Timothy, he said that all in Asia had turned against him. And that was before 60 AD...
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    The proliferation of so many English translations does little but to confuse the majority of people, especially those new in the faith. While I can deal with the proliferation to some extent, it really has caused me to go the other direction to some degree. My preference has migrated to the...
  8. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Indeed! Those that remain on the earth and are not hidden from that time as per the Prophets, King David, and Paul at least. I follow the example of the Bereans in Acts. They relied on the OT to see if what Paul taught them was true. There are many, many passages in the OT that allude to a...
  9. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Actually, what we as believers are promised is that we would be gathered and protected from the day of Lord. Yeshua stated clearly in Matthew 28 that all authority was given to Him in heaven and earth. From Matthew 28 and onward to seal one in Revelation and onward thru the millennial kingdom...
  10. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Well, Peter and Paul were at odds from time to time..... Even Peter admitted Paul's writings were valid though. Some keep looking for the beast / antichrist / man of sin but I will keep looking for the Messiah. Then we will all be at least looking expectantly. Titus 2:13 looking for the...
  11. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    I think that two GT periods would be confusing. It seems the destruction of the temple early in that chapter (V1 - V2) and then talking about the lead up to the Time of Jacob's Trouble / Tribulation with that period following. Seems pretty straightforward. A - B - C.
  12. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Not really, though I suspect there are some aspects that could make it seem that way, but the Davidic Covenant does put a bit of a kink in that idea. As does the Abrahamic covenant. Both of these play into each other. But while in general tribulation is an issue, Yeshua did specify a unique...
  13. Copperhead

    What does an enemy of the state look like?

    To answer the thread question.... the Democrat Party. Now don't construe that with a love for Republicans, hardly. They have a lot of baggage also. But the Democrats.... 1) threw under the bus 58,000 killed Americans, over 300,000 wounded Americans, and 21 million Vietnamese. I lived thru...
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    I haven't doubted the position for the over 6 decades I have been alive. Even well before Hal Lindsey wrote "Late Great Planet Earth" in 1970.
  15. Copperhead

    Christians That Hate Israel.

    Irregardless of what folks think about Israel, the Jewish people, and all the conspiratorial stuff thrown in, Yeshua stated without ambiguity that He is not coming back until, as a corporate, national entity, they realize their offense of rejecting Him and petition for Him to return. Doesn't...
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Yeah, it sure goes back a lot further than Darby. I am not sure how Darby became the focal point for attack by other eschatological positions. Darby was a relative late comer. Maybe because some of the pictures on the internet of Darby that has him almost looking like a evil mad man...
  17. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    From what I can tell from scripture, The "apostasy" has been going on since Genesis 3. Especially so by Genesis 4. And a casual read of scripture and historical records of the last few thousand years, I cannot see a time when there wasn't a time when many were separating themselves from God...
  18. Copperhead

    The thief on the cross !?

    Well, since Yeshua and the thief died shortly before the end of that day, you could be right. But that left the next day which started at sunset shortly after the burial. Either way... Ephesians 4:8-9 (NKJV) Therefore He says: “When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave...
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    The thief on the cross !?

    What the scripture teaches about salvation and how it is accomplished is not the subject being discussed. It was regarding the thief on the cross and what paradise meant. You err in that you area not even on topic.
  20. Copperhead

    The thief on the cross !?

    It is true that it is permissible to move the punctuation. Whether the assumption made as a result of doing so is valid, that could be a different deal. It is a stretch to accentuate the sentence the way you did. "Verily I say unto you today" is a statement that infers a difference. That...