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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    I can't make heads or tails out of how you are interpreting this parable? You are going on about--" This is teaching about the approaching day of reckoning for man. It all concludes at the coming of Jesus Christ. This is when the righteous are rewarded and the wicked are punished. It is the...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Isn't context important to Amils, such as yourself? Do you not see in Revelation that the kings of earth meant in Revelation 1:5 are not meaning the same kings of the earth meant in Revelation 6:15, Revelation 16:14, Revelation 17:2, Revelation 17:18, Revelation 18:3, Revelation 18:9, and...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    For example. The NT says this. Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. The OT says this. Zechariah 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Explain why I would be wrong about some or all of the following? A) Great tribulation and the wrath of God are not the same thing. B) Great tribulation and the great wrath of satan are the same thing. C) The DOTL and great tribulation are not the same thing. D) The DOTL and the wrath of...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Unlike Amils who mainly only go by what the NT says as opposed to what the OT and NT says combined, I mainly reason things according to the latter. You act as if I don't take Zechariah 14:16-19 to be meaning after Christ has already returned. You act as if I don't take Zechariah 14:4-5 to be...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    In my view, the DOTL involves an era of time rather than a single 24 hour day as Amils believe. I don't know if that equals segments in the way you are meaning it, though? I tend to think the DOTL begins with the seven vials full of the seven last plagues. And if I am correct, it would be absurd...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Sorry. My bad. I'm relaxed now. :)
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    That might be like asking, if two convicted criminals get sent to prison for their crimes, where one gets 5 years the other gets life, does this mean they can't be the same prison both are sent to? Obviously, it can be the same prison without everyone sent there, their fates having to be the...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Here's what I was basically saying to @Douggg in that post where I was using a bit of sarcasm to try and make my points. Keeping in mind, @Douggg is a Premil, not an Amil. ------ I find it troubling that you're emphasizing 2 Peter 3:12 and connecting it to Revelation 20, but seem to be...
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    Do you believe the lie?

    Unfortunately, someone has to fulfill this--those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition(John 17:12). Where Judas is being used as an example of those meant in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, the son of perdition. A lot of interpreters apparently don't notice...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Maybe you are just looking at some of it somewhat wrong? That's possible, right? Maybe verse 15 is not being applied to the NHNE in the future but is being applied to the here and now spiritually? Let's look at things a bit closer. Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Unlike man, the devil was obviously created immortal. Therefore, since satan is unable to die, and that man is able to die, it literally means what it says about satan, that he shall be tormented day and night forever and ever. Nowhere in Revelation 20:10 does it ever call that the 2nd death...
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    Both Amils and most Premils insist 2 Peter 3:10-12 is meaning Revelation 20:11. In Revelation 20:11 the Greek word for fled away is 'pheugo'. But where is that same Greek word also used in 2 Peter 3:10-12 anywhere?
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    Rev 3.10 PreTrib or PostTrib

    IOW, let's just ignore verse 10 in that same chapter. Let's just pretend that verse 12 is not meaning verse 10. Let's just pretend that the day of the Lord that comes as a thief in the night per verse 10 is not the same day of the Lord that comes as a thief in the night per 1 Thessalonians 5:2...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    ECT = eternal conscious torment, this view clearly meaning they are conscious and being tormented forever without end. Which is impossible for humans unless they live forever first. My point being, eating from the tree of life is connected with living forever. No human cast into the LOF is going...
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    Do you believe the lie?

    Since you brought up John 1:1, well there is also verse 3 in that same chapter. John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:3 says Jesus made everything. It undeniably says nothing that was made came into being without him. Which would...
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    Do you believe the lie?

    Do you think it's impossible to be saved if one is denying Christ's deity? Or maybe we should look at it from God's perspective not ours. Would God condemn every single JW to the LOF because they denied that Christ is God? Would that be a valid reason for God to cast all JWs into the LOF?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    You can not have 2 Peter 3:10-12 meaning the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD without having all of the preceding verses supporting that. For example. Does verse 3 support that? What about verse 4? What about verse 7 and verse 9? Should we understand verse 4 like such? And saying, Where is...
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    Premillennialism contradicts scripture (1 Corinthians 15:50-54) by having mortal flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom of God when Jesus returns.

    Adam obviously represents a literal single human being God created in the beginning. We can know that by the following. Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Look what happens here if we take Adam to represent mankind rather than a...