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Ok, I can see a little reason there. But the man of sin is a false prophet and not a false Christ. Does Antichrist also mean false prophet? I ask because Jesus separated the two by saying false Christ and false prophets will come.

That is actually funny! I was saying, you may interpret God’s wrath starting before the first seal or perhaps after the 6th seal or even after the 7th Trumpet. Where you interpret that wrath to begin differs from my own. But, I believe the church is not for God’s wrath just as you do. It’s a...

That single verse I never hear from Pre-Tbbers. What fiery trial is Peter referring to if we are outta here in Heaven? The word rendered "fiery trial" (πυρώσει purōsei) occurs only here and in Revelation 18:9, Revelation 18:18; in both of which latter places it is rendered burning. It only...

I did not say anything hateful to you. Why do people that confess their Christians do such things? Are we here to talk or not? It seems If I don't like what you have to say, I get ignored. No, I do my best to listen to God in all things though I admit I don't always, I ask God to help me when I...

Nothing there says the man of sin is an Antichrist. What it does say is that in the time of him writing this, they believed antichrist will come as a prophecy....and he follows up saying they are in that time already as "whereby we know its the last time" because "now there are many antichrist."...

When it comes to eschatology, the Church in general (today) really stinks at it. And I worry how all that will affect believers when things do happen and they do see them. Just because someone's eschatology is off doesn't mean the rest of their beliefs are off too. But I wonder if others will...

True statement. But where you apply that wrath and where others do is the issue. Jacob's trouble has to do with the Israel of God. Not physical Israel which was delt with in 70 AD. That day" points to the future, and thus, even apart from other reasons, excludes the supposition that it is the...

There were many antichrists already. I have replied to ewq1938 on this. You can read my reply there in post #221. Sadly, I and others disagree. Sitteth in the temple of God - That is, in the Christian church. It is by no means necessary to understand this of the temple at Jerusalem, which was...

Like I said, if you can find it, I will believe it. I have no problems humbling myself and learning something new. But I have never seen it. John penned 4 verses on antichrists. 1. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many...

Does the False Prophet deny them? If you can find it, I’d believe it

Yes, 2 different things happened to the Jews. They endured tribulation and eventually they endured God's wrath with Jerusalem's destruction. 2 different words with 2 different meanings. Distress: anagké: calamity, distress, straits Wrath: Orge: (referring to God's) fixed, controlled, passionate...

The Great Tribulation is not wrath. Megas persecution just means widespread as opposed to locally. It is pronounced all over instead of limited to certain areas. The feeling of being "hemmed in" will be everywhere. But great tribulation is still never identified as God's wrath. Persecution of...

My Bible is in English. Does it say in Rev that the man of sin denies the Father and the Son?

Not at all Enoch. Many times we can. But does the man of sin have the spirit of an antichrist? I dont know. We are not told the man of sin does. Does the man of sin deny the Father and the Son? We are not told.

No its not. We dont know if it is true. What is factual is he is called the man of sin. Let's use facts. Not speculation. Again, Let's use the Bible, not speculation. Plenty of people disagree with that. Not everyone thinks a false Tempe is required. Come to think of it, arnt we the 3rd...

No. The word Antichrist doesnt exist in Rev 13. And this may be difficult for you, but there are 2 Beasts.

Not so. By the figure of the seven stars which Christ holds in his right hand, Revelation 1:16; Revelation 2:1; Revelation 3:1, are signified the angels of the seven churches. Also, wandering stars, Jude 1:13 which we are told are men as filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and...

I corrected you in red since we should stick to the Bible and not what we think. 1. What some say is the Antichrist, may or may not be. What he is called is the Man of sin or man of lawlessness. 2. The treaty is with many. Israel is not mentioned in the treaty, but they could be part of it. 3...

The dead in Christ rise first is 1 resurrection. The Harpazo is 1. There is not a second harpazo and there is only 1 other resurrection. As far as 1 Cor 15, it is not another harpazo or a resurrection because it is describing how fast our change is, in the twinkling of an eye. but we shall all...

But I asked you want if it's not cosmic signs. You're looking at it literally and this was given in the spirit. You want to paint the picture of a billion degree heat wave from the sun and the 144k walk in it wearing SPF 2 trillion. I know you read a lot of OT because you're always posting verse...