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When Christ bodily returns you don't think the kingdom will be physical, but will be spiritual forever? Which would mean saints experience the kingdom forever by faith rather than by sight. Which means saints still won't be able to see angels, for example, with the naked eye, because the kingdom...

I'm Premil too, yet you are not making much sense here, IMO. In Revelation 19 it involves the 2nd coming, then notice verse 21. Who do you take that to mean? Why wouldn't they be meaning the tares but would be meaning someone else? Surely, the tares would be part of the beast's armies. Or at...

I will try and take this on for now. Hmmm. Apparently, you don't agree that the moment Christ resurrected was when the OC age officially vanished and the NC officially age began. So what if there was still the 2nd temple and that they were still sacrificing animals for another 40 years. How...

Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit...

Just found the following article below. Thus far I have read some of it not all of it. What I have read I'm pretty much in agreement with for the most part. Worth reading if you have the time and are open about this subject rather than closed-minded. My view is and always has been that tares...

I'm not applying Genesis 3:15 to the time of the fall. That verse is prophetic and involves Christ, which means Christ has to be born first, which He was 2000 years ago.

What is it that you think is being sown in the world? Isn't it this? the children of the kingdom and the children of the wicked one. BTW, IMO, this also sheds some more light on the 2 seeds mentioned in Genesis 3. Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy...

IMO, NOSAS certainly doesn't contradict that. That has to be the solution then. Think of it like this. If the Bible is using real world imagery to make a point, shouldn't we first be considering what it means in a real world sense then applying it in that same manner per when it is used in the...

In my view the only way the tares could be involving the millennial reign is if Amil is the correct position. It is paralleling their proposed millennial reign, not Premils proposed millennial reign. The sowing only pertains to this age and not the next age as well. Matthew 13:39 The enemy...

I get where you are coming from since Romans 2(29) does tend to explain this part in Revelation 3:9---them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie--- but how does Romans 2(29) help explain this part in Revelation 3:9 though---behold, I will make them to come...

Since you appear to be applying this locally rather than globally, who in the land right now would be meaning the wheat and who would be meaning the tares? Matthew 13:38 The field is the world ; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one...

Here's what the passage actually says in context. Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. Jesus is the speaker here...

Why then is there a rebellion after the millennium, if before the millennium Jesus already got rid of all who don't belong? This assuming Premil. Maybe you are not a Premil, though? Can't remember if you are or are not.

What are you meaning by unbelievers, though? All the unsaved lost in general, including atheists, for example? If yes, in what way are atheists in the kingdom of God when one can not even see and enter the kingdom of God to begin with unless they are born again first? John 3:1 There was a man...

Look what the KJV says, though. John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him...

Once again, keeping in mind Amil has satan sowing the tares during the millennium when satan is in the pit. Premil doesn't. When satan is sowing the tares it is meaning in the here and now, the same here and now that Amils have satan sowing the tares while satan is in the pit. I see this being...

Look what you are arguing here, then compare to the following which is clearly already meaning before the cross not after it. John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a...

Apparently, your view, the fact you are of the OSAS camp, doesn't allow for anyone to have a chance to initially enter the kingdom of God then prove themselves worthy or not worthy after having entered. Your view makes God unfair instead of God giving everyone a chance to enter the kingdom of...

It seems rather simple and straightforward to me. Not once saved always saved(NOSAS) explains a lot of it, or maybe even all of it.

I don't interpret any of that like @Timtofly does, but that is beside the point since you make an interesting point here, regardless. But not how your point might apply to the millennium post the 2nd coming, but how it would apply to the millennium before the 2nd coming. One view in regards to...