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I just tried to look at everything literally. When it says the mouth of the false prophet I take it as a literal mouth. If we start to deviate from a literal interpretation then we have started to move that proverbial line between literal and non-literal. Sticking to a literal interpretation we...

I personally haven’t but it would be interesting if someone does know if a document case.

Let’s take a look at what the sixth bowl being poured out literally looks like. Revelation 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean...

Fair enough, I will admit a person can over spiritualize verses. The book of Revelation is full of symbolism and much of the book is given to John when he was in the spirit. I suppose where to draw the line on what’s literal and what’s not is influenced to at least some degree on how we...

But then we do know the hour <5610> that Jesus returns. How does that square with Matthew 24:36? Are you thinking that one is a literal hour and the other isn’t?

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. Here John declares it is the last hour <5610>. If the last plagues are still future and take place in the...

1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. I really don’t have an issue with the plagues being literal, it’s just that if they ever do happen literally I think it had to be back in 70AD, with spiritual...

No, I haven’t, thanks for the link. I’ll take a look. You are correct, there are many such places where a verse can be literal or spiritual and we have to make the decision. That’s why I was debating more on why it can’t be a physical plague. If it can be shown that the plagues can be physical...

So do you think the plagues are literal or spiritual?

Are you saying that the last plagues take place after the millennium, after Satan has been loosed? Isn’t Satans little season a plague? I don’t think we will ever fully understand or agree on Revelation until we are out of our sin cursed bodies. If the warning is meant for that time when we do...

I agree with you on this I agree the descriptions of the plagues are very detailed. I know there are Preterist who have tried to tie a literal interpretation to events in Jerusalem up to 70AD. I’ve looked at some of their explanations and I can only see where there are similarities but I’m not...

Ok, if I understand you then the last plagues in Revelation 16 are the absolute last time a plague happens, after that specific time period no plague can ever happen again. In Revelation 16:12-13 the sixth bowl is poured out and the spirits of devils work miracles and they gather them together...

Ok, I think we may be getting closer in our thinking here. I think it could be possible that the plagues occur through time to individuals that tamper with the scriptures. I don’t personally see any literal plagues happening so I go to the thought that the plagues are spiritual. Well I have...

Yes, that is correct. It’s not only that it doesn’t make sense to me, it’s also that a literal interpretation of the plagues requires a resurrection of unbelievers prior to the plagues occurring in order for them to participate in the literal plagues. I don’t see any verses that support a...

Sure, so people have been worshipping on Sunday for well over a thousand years now, and millions have already died without being inflicted with the plagues. When will those dead Sunday worshippers experience the plagues?

Ok, thanks for the explanation. Revelation 22:18 says it’s the plagues written in the book that are added, it doesn’t say a similar kind of plague. Can we then say that the plagues themselves have no time restrictions? Kind of like a medical book saying everyone who cuts their finger will...

Right, it’s not what you said but we have both attempted to prove a point using flawed logic. Saying God wrote it in the Bible, therefore it’s going to happen exactly as I think it will, is flawed thinking that relies on humans not God. This type of argument does nothing to support a view...

Ok, so I can say the person that changed 666 to 616 literally experienced the actual plagues in Revelation while he was alive, thus proving that Revelation 16 is fulfilled. It’s enough that He said it is so. I don’t have any issues with believing His words are true. One of us has to be wrong...

Ok, so if it doesn’t apply to the plagues then how is it that the person who altered the number 666 and turned it into 616, experiences the literal plagues? Did they experience them before they died or are they going to be resurrected first to literally experience them?

No, I altered your quote and told you that I changed it to make a point. That point was that anyone can simply say Gods going to make something happen because that’s what the Bible says, which is essentially what you said, or at least how I understood what you said. Using this type of logic I...