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Are you saying earth's entire population is killed at the white horses coming?

So you are saying there is one coming and that is the rapture?

Rev14 is the gathering of the Jews. Vividly portrayed. 144k firstfruits are in heaven first in ch 14 Main harvest always follows firstfruits Vs 14 is the main harvest Jews. Note that Jesus is not on any horse in Rev 14:14 . Also, in rev 14:14 gathering, he is not the groom gathering the...

You just proved both removed pretrib Thanks!!!!

...the exact message of JTB.

The dead in Christ rise BEFORE the 2 gatherings of Rev 14. ( 1 thes 4 is turned into a lie with the postribber doctrine) Rev 14 destroys every position except the pretrib rapture doctrine

Might be the wisest move. He is just plain too nasty to converse with.

It is taught in the Bible. It is solid doctrine. What you are doing is called "condemnation prior to investigation"

Rev 14 has a gathering BEFORE where you place the rapture. So, in your DOCTRINE you have the dead in christ rising AFTER the living of 1 thesalonians 4 IOW your doctrine according to God's Holy Word , is litterally impossible.

You are 90 % cheap shot, 5% bible, 5% other ingredients. That is how anyone can see you are angry and frustrated. But I do understand your frustration and inability to hold a civil conversation. The verses I bring are not considered by you. You see them as fodder to be reframed and neutered...

Omission is the foundation of your doctrine. Do you really think you can void out the pretrib rapture verses? Those verses are not there to omit other verses.

Lol Hilarious. Here is your attempt to exegate : """Revelation 1:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Can you see here that the "fine linen" that the Lamb's wife is given is not literal fine linen...

In your doctrine, is the second coming at the white horses? IOW, Is he riding a white horse with the saints accompanying Him on horses?

It would be fake if a postribber prayed that. . ...and no red flags to them. Woah

rebuilder 454 said: The Christians left behind in the GT, are those that lost their zeal, intimacy, and first love. Some are in habitual sin They are not worthy. Not ready Not prepared. That is Why "some pray" ( not postribbers) what Jesus said to pray; " PRAY that you may be COUNTED WORTHY to...

The AC kills all refusing the mark. That alone disqualifies any hope of running from cave to cave hoping to escape. Ahem...no postrib rapture.

Just omit the pretrib rapture verses. Oh wait...you do that already

There is no crown for having a erroneous postrib rapture doctrine..( actually pretending the AC does not kill all on the planet refusing the mark) The baby Jesus, Lot and Noah were all gathered prejudgement.( how evil of Jesus to escape...God would have just protected him) Is it shame on them...

14 pages of attempts by postribbers, to "prove" Jesus was mistaken, and did not declare 2 separate comings in matt 24 ,to save a flawed postrib rapture doctrine. Most of the attempts post verses trying to void Jesus's words in matt 24. Comical watching postribbers on their hamster wheel...

That's like saying "when the Bible says "peter" I see nothing to suggest that could possibly be an actual person. A parable does not name the people in it. Why? Because it is fictitious . But let's pretend it is a parable. The message is the same.