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  1. St. SteVen

    Claimed prophetic fulfillment seems highly questionable. - Were they acquired rather than intended?

    Here are a couple. (we'll need to examine the context of the OT quotes) Acquired rather than intended? If the OT "prophecy" was not intended as a prophecy, then the NT writer acquired it as such. Mark 14:27 NET Then[a] Jesus said to them, “You will all fall away, for it is written, ‘I will...
  2. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    Are you saying that everyone who has already passed to the realm of the dead (afterlife) will be transferred to the Millennium earth? [
  3. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    St. SteVen said: What becomes of those who have not had that opportunity? Countless billions. Toast? How does that help the countless billions who never had the opportunity? [
  4. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    Right. Everyone will believe in Him. Those in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead). Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation...
  5. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    What becomes of those who have not had that opportunity? Countless billions. Toast? [
  6. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    St. SteVen said: This scripture agrees with my POV. Verse 17 reads: "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." That is a misrepresentation of what the verse says. The word "but" shows that there are...
  7. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    It might help for you to understand how I came to see things the way I do now. I find it interesting that my words are so threatening to the status quo that posters have resorted to "screaming" in large letters to silence me rather than trying to understand what I am saying. Several years...
  8. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    I'm not afraid of labels like heresy. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/was-jesus-heretical-why-did-they-crucify-him.57292/ https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/was-jesus-orthodox-or-baptist.57275/ [
  9. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    This scripture agrees with my POV. Verse 17 reads: "For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." Which reminds me of this one below: Did Jesus fail his mission? 1 John 4:14 NIV And we have seen and testify that the...
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    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    By what means are we saved? Was the Atonement a complete work, or an incomplete work? 1 John 2:2 NIV He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. [
  11. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    Are you claiming that the Atonement was an incomplete work, or that we have to save ourselves? Which is it? 1 John 2:2 NIV He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. Romans 11:32, 36 32 For God has bound everyone over to...
  12. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    Countless billions have gone to the afterlife with no knowledge of Christ. Will God consign them to eternal conscious torment? [
  13. St. SteVen

    Were messianic prophecies acquired, rather than intended? (in the original texts)

    On closer examination we find misquotes and acquired claims that were not the intention of the ancient writers. They do NOT seem to hold up well. What happened? [
  14. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    Several pages worth. [
  15. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    I never said any such thing. (Lying, slander and bearing false witness) [
  16. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    What good work? Lying, slander and bearing false witness? [
  17. St. SteVen

    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    More topics on UR. Answering Twelve Challenges to Universalism ...on final salvation in the major branches of Christendom?” 8. “What would happen if Christian congregations or denominations embraced universalism?” 9. “What’s the final destiny of Satan and demons?” 10. “Can sinful...
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    Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

    1 John 2:2 NIV He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. [