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Sure, but the point is that is calling ~ which is much more than just, "Hey, dude, you wanna get saved?" :) ...facetious but true... ~ is an proactive act of love on His part; His calling is a drawing of the sinner unto Himself, as a father would pick up his child and carry him/her to safety...

Yes, and quite astounding that they could all be in perfect harmony, with not even a hint of disagreement, let alone contradiction. It is as if they were even the same person. Or maybe ~ just maybe ~ there really was one Author... one unchanging Being, Who, you know, breathed His Word into...

That is an excellent question, Ferris. Please, allow me. :) Let's look at what Paul says about "those whom He foreknew" in Romans 8:29... God is the creator, right? And He knows who everybody is, and He knows what they will do at any point in their lives, right? Yes, and we would agree on...

So you think. Okay, no offense, but your manner of conversation, at least from time to time, is very off-putting to me. That you think I am incorrect in my thinking is quite obvious, and you can rest assured that I think the same of you. They will exit the millennial kingdom, as will everyone...

Which means... it is disputed. :) Well... it's 'Arminians'... :) Regardless where one falls on the Election "spectrum," the question really comes down to accepting the following passages (emphases mine of course), which are very much unambiguous: "At that time the Feast of Dedication took...

Well, let's just say there are many good Christians who believe along the same lines as you on this, but there are also many good Christians who would agree with me. You and I disagree. Yes, I get that you and other dispensationalists think so, loud and clear. We can agree to disagree. One...

Well, the Son of God. But also the Son of Man. :) Grace and peace to you.

By "the church," Ronald, do you mean the the church age? If so, I agree with at least that part; this is the age of the church (Christ's church), in which it is being built, as Paul says in Ephesians 2:20-22 ~ we are being built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus...

We will agree to disagree. I've been very clear in my laying this out. I will say again that it is when we, having been dead in our trespasses since birth (even conception), are, each at our own appointed time, made alive together with Christ and raised us up with Him and seated with Him in...

Absolutely. Not sure if you're insinuating I said otherwise, but I certainly did not. Disagree. Yes, the dead in Christ rise first, but this is the second resurrection. Not to say the KJV or NKJV is "bad," necessarily, but the King James versions, both the KJV and the NKJV, are a little hard...

Absolutely. Right. This is the second resurrection. But the first is a spiritual resurrection of God's elect, each at his own time at the appointed time of God (as in Acts 13:48, "And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were...

Right, and by the work of the Spirit in us; it is He Who gives us the assurance and convicts (in Hebrews 11:1 terms). This is the Spirit's gift to us, by the will of the Father. The Spirit works faith in us. Grace and peace to you, Ronald! And all, of course.

In being born again, Behold, we are brought from death in sin to life in Christ. It is a resurrection. Not physical, but spiritual. This is the first resurrection. Well, they take out of context what it means to be begotten of God. I agree, Jesus was not created. He was with the Father...

See, maybe you are not, but I think I understand you here to be conflating two things, the first and second resurrections. I'll just make these points: Only God's elect experience the first resurrection (I think we agree on this). This resurrection occurs individually over the course of the...

Right, I agree, and this is true of both the first and second resurrection ~ for members of God's elect. Well, sort of, I guess... I would say both yes and no to this. Actually, I would just clarify what you say here, and say that in being born again, we who were once dead in spirit, dead in...

Those who have been born again have experienced the first resurrection, which is spiritual rather than physical. The spiritual "part" of us (so to speak), once dead in sin, has been raised up with Christ and seated with Him in the heavenly places in Him (Ephesians 2:6). So the spiritual is...

I'm... not sure what you're talking about here, but I made no all-inclusive statement. We cannot know whether a baby has been born again of the Spirit, because the baby is not able to verbally affirm this (obviously), either from inside of the womb or outside. No, this it tantamount to saying...

Right, I agree, but I would submit to you that you have already been resurrected ~ experienced the first resurrection: "They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years... This is the first resurrection... Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection!"...

I would submit to you, Devin, that you were born again before you made that active decision. Otherwise, you would have not made it; you would have remained in your decision otherwise. Sounds to me like you have been saved. And ~ and ~ are being saved. Both seem to be true. Well, He did that...

There's no way to know this. Even Alfred can't. It is possible; the Holy Spirit was obviously with John even before his birth (Luke 1). This is true. :) If one is reborn of the Spirit, then yes, he or she has the Spirit. Right. Agree. See but here, you're actually unintentionally...