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When it says, " not by works ", is it talking about works of the law? Or is there no work involved in following Christ?

What's your understanding of NT saving Faith, or saving pisteuo?

Sounds good.

Tomorrow, I'm tired! What time is best for you?

I thought I was.

Not feeling like waiting for even a possibility of knowing Christ better? That's not a good sign! Your not ready.

Let pick it up tomorrow. What's a good time for you?

At the point the Father is drawing or calling us to Christ, we do not have the Spirit of Christ residing in us yet. Correct?

Ok , at the start of the salvation journey we are drawn or called by The Father to Christ. Agree?

We could go through the Salvation journey, step by step. That way I could highlight the points I'm attempting to make. Are you willing to do that?

Your not understanding! NT saving Faith is a Continually surrendered life. Period!

The words believe, believer, and believing are mistranslations of the Greek word pisteuo. The English language doesn't have a corresponding verb to the noun Faith like the Greek does. So pisteuo couldn't be correctly translated into the English language. This is how your understanding was formed.

So you'll agree to surrender, as long as you receive something in return for such surrender. That's not a surrender, that's a business deal!

Yes, Rom.8:9! We are none of His!

This is where the mistranslation comes in. Believe and recieve is not how NT saving Faith or pisteuo is fulfilled. There are many things that must happen in the salvation journey. They must happen and happen in the correct order. .

At the beginning, the scriptures are not ours yet! You can't make illegitimate claims on Christ and His word until you receive the Spirit of Christ.

Sorry, has to be in Christ Himself. At the beginning of the salvation journey, we don't have the Spirit of Christ yet. So Christ ( His blood) , His word and the promises in His word are not ours to claim yet.

No , Abraham's Pisteuo was in God Himself, not His promises. It even mentions Abraham's Faith in the Vines Greek dictionary defining pisteuo. His promises are the " occasion" for Faith but not the object of Faith.

Faithing in His blood won't work! Has to be in Christ Himself. A surrender isn't a surrender if your expecting something in return. That would be a business deal or vending machine kind of Faith.

You said, " we place our Faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross." What Jesus did on the cross is the " occasion" for Faith, but can't be the "object" of Faith. The object of Faith, or the application of Faith has to be in Christ Himself, a real living person. We do that by faithing, or...