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  1. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I've acknowledged as much ever since you brought it up. You can't possibly be reading my posts. I've addressed the whole fellowheirs thing in about 3 posts now. And that says there is no future promise of a kingdom on the earth to Israel as per Jeremiah 31:31 how? I mean it's a great verse...
  2. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Well, what you said is like something a Pharisee or Gnostic would say. On the other hand, I've never accused you of being fleshy, unable to understand spiritual things, nor would I ever deign to do so. You have a judge, Jesus. I'd be loathe to take over his roll. So where does the projection...
  3. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Well, if your saying it's all "signified" then I can say that "signified" in Rev 1:1 really means it's all literal. Why not? What's your method to determine what's literal and what is allegorical in any book of the Bible?
  4. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Spoken like a true Pharisee! Or a true Gnostic? Whatever. Take your pick.
  5. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Good observation! I've actually seen that from the git-go, but I let just let it slide, though I finally felt it need to be addressed. I pretty much ignore all his, "your avoiding answering" mantras. He knows deep down where things stand. But one thing he's done is make me dig deeper into the...
  6. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    No, that's not what the genitive case means. It describes the nature of something, not it's location. There other ways the Greek language uses to locate something. You clearly don't understand the genitive case. To you it means what you want it to mean, specifically whatever it takes to align...
  7. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Well, it'd be hard for me to reveal the future tense. It's not there, nor did I say it was. So now that I've answered your question for the 5th or 6th time, I'd think you can no longer falsely accuse me of avoiding it. But then again, it wouldn't surprise me if you did. But that's OK. I...
  8. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    You could have stopped holding you breath a long time ago had you looked at what I've said many times about those tenses. I even suggested you verify what I said. I told you that's be easy to do. It appears you've chosen not to do that. In other words you are the one avoiding.
  9. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    For the most part I agree with all you are saying. However it really has no bearing on the point we are discussing. None of that precludes a future fulfillment of God's promises to Israel. Regarding Hebrews 8:13, it'd help if you'd look for the meaning of the various Greek verbs tenses I've...
  10. Rich R

    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Where in Hebrews 11:8-16 say that God abandoned His plans to give land (the earth, whatever) to Abraham. Please be as specific as I've been. I said that, according to Greek Grammar, the word "heavenly" being in the Genitive case was descriptive and was not describing it's location. Which...
  11. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I finally get it! My mistake all along was taking all your posts literally. Now I understand all your posts have really been allegorically. I can see the hidden meaning there; you now agree with everything I've said. You say that Isaiah should be read spiritually, but now I understand that you...
  12. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Are you reading my posts without bias? If you just take my words for what they say, I can't imagine why you'd ask that question. Now I suppose you will accuse me of not answering the question. But if you'd stop reading my posts as if they are allegorical you should easily answer that question...
  13. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    My post was, "So why dont' we see lions laying with lambs, or children playing with asps? I've not seen even one single ICBM has being made into a plowshare." How is that condescending at at all, let alone condescending nonsense? Also, where in that post did you see me saying anything about...
  14. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    It appeared that you were suggesting that all the verbs in Hebrews 8:13 were in the past tense. We're you in fact agreeing with me that it has not yet come to pass?
  15. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and...
  16. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Right after hitting the "Post reply" button I thought, "Someone's going to say those things are not literal. They are allegorical."
  17. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    So why dont' we see lions laying with lambs, or children playing with asps? I've not seen even one single ICBM has being made into a plowshare.
  18. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Good translations, but they fail to account for the tenses, which makes a huge difference since the heart of our discussion is when this all takes place. I gave you the tenses. You should be able to verify what I said with an interlinear. You may have to Google what the aorists and perfect...
  19. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    All good stuff. Yes Christians now have direct access to God. But I fail to see how it annuls anything I said about God's New Covenant with Israel. None of those verses say the New Covenant has been completely fulfilled. Given the clarity of the nature of the promised land to Israel (over 150...
  20. Rich R

    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    That's what Hebrews appears to say. Heb 8:13, In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away. The Old (the first) Covenant is decaying, waxing old, and is ready to vanish away. The process began with the the...