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hey AP, cool bicycle!

i dont believe this because: there is no such command in scripture.

pat roberts is a good example of everything that is wrong with the faith today.

i agree that we should not follow false teachers, Jesus teaches we can spot bad teachers by their fruit, examples of bad fruit would be burning people alive, torturing people, persecuting Christians, burning villages to the ground full of innocent women and children. you sure dont want to follow...

i pointed to the scripture "knock and the door will open" teaching of Jesus, the one that you reject because you teach people should not seek the Father they should seek a group.

you think that if everyone does not come to the exact same conclusion about every interpretation in the bible like programmed robots, all hope is lost. why do you worry so much about what other people think? is your faith that fragile? Jesus was one man, the church at that time was made up of...

no, i dont think you get it, you point to a bible verse and say "thats our group/church" but what you dont seem to get is every church does the exact same thing.

do you understand that there is a difference between human beings and robots?

but its a "group" that decides who is a church. how are you not getting that?

Not what I said, your omitting the key part, you have to be seeking the Most High. You seek the Father you will be lead correctly. Your teaching people to seek the church, the followers of Jim Jones were seeking a church, then they drank the koolaid.

But according to you I can get a few others that share my opinion and now, since we are a group, we get to decide how a Christian should worship. Not something I want to be apart of.

I thought the spirit leads us to chose and if these choices come along when we are seeking the Father we will be lead by the Father. This is what Jesus taught. Do we ignore what Jesus says and put our faith in roman councils? These are the same councils that taught inquisitions were a good idea...

I said I do not believe in kicking because I do not believe myself to be the final authority on kicking people, I hope I never becomes that arrogant to believe my opinion is above all others.

you didnt say if it was a good spider or bad spider? black widow, brown recluse, kill em, i dont want em biting my kids. the rest i take outside.

if i believed in a doctrine and they edited scripture to support it, it would make me very suspicious of the doctrine.

thats my best friend BreadOfLife. we have always been so close. he is the one with the pic of two hands holding a babylonian clay tablet thing.

i dont agree kicking anyone from any church. i think this idea would have worked well in the days of Jesus and maybe a few generations later, but many generations later you have the church just as guilty of wrongdoings as the ones they accuse. the Cathar Christians even by the roman accounts...

I am happy with the church in the years after Jesus, you had different schools of thought on salvation, Christology, etc, but so what, people should be free to chose the teachings they believe are correct, if they are seeking the Father they will be lead correctly, thats what Jesus taught, they...

hey MM! i was just proving a point. they were chained up to prevent people from stealing them, but a poor person has no reason to steal one as they could only sell to a rich person who has the money to go get their own.

there are a lot of Hindu sects that accept Jesus and His teachings. a lot of Buddhist sects believe Jesus and Buddha share the same spirit. the similarities between Jesus and Siddhartha Gotama are mind boggling.