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  1. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Not anywhere near everyone, Marcus. Only those who have been fooled by false teachers, to believe theories that their adherent's are totally unable to support with scripture. The fact that you find it necessary to use vilification and personal epithets to denigrate me, is proof enough of your...
  2. keras

    Third Temple

    What I believe is way different from what you think I believe. It would be nice if you retracted your false statements about others here.
  3. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Matthew 24:32-34 – Christ tells us to learn from the fig tree, when it breaks into leaf, we can know that the end is near and this present generation will live to see it all. Obviously, it was not that generation who heard His prophecy, but He means the last generation before these things take...
  4. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    No, the holy Land with Jerusalem as its capital remains on earth until the end of the Millennium, when it will be replaced with a new heaven and a new earth. Please point out exactly where in Revelation it says Christians will be raptured to heaven. Why do you want me to write out my Bible...
  5. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Well, why are you bothered about earthly disasters, if you believe you won't be here to experience them? Calling Luke 21 and Rev 7 rapture scriptures, shows your fixation to that false theory. Nowhere do either of those chapters say anyone would be taken to heaven. Typing up verses that prove...
  6. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    I have never denied that there will be a 'harpazo' at the Return of Jesus. But in no way is it a removal to heaven, it is simply a gathering by Jesus' angels to where He is, namely in Jerusalem. Matthew 24:31 explains it. It is all that must happen before that glorious Day, that I concentrate...
  7. keras

    Third Temple

    Stan, I have to wonder at your Bible understanding. Quoting a situation that will be AFTER the Millennium, hardly makes your case. In fact, because John mentions that for eternity there will be no Temple, means that before that time there WILL be a Temple.
  8. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Stan's proof of a rapture to heaven: 1 Thess 4:13-18 - No mention of a removal to heaven there. 1 Cor 15:51-53 - No mention of a removal to heaven there. Titus 2:13 - No mention of a removal to heaven there. John 14:3 - No mention of a removal to heaven there either! You...
  9. keras

    Third Temple

    God doesn't go backward, nor does He change. He will require a new Temple when His righteous people all live in the Holy Land. You have to ignore many prophesies to deny this. What Jesus is talking about in John 10, is the great rejoining of Judah and Israel. Ezekiel 37, Jeremiah 50:4-6 Judah...
  10. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    What you and others don't understand, is how the Lord's Day of vengeance and wrath will happen. It is a Day separate from and years before the Return. Despite protestations to the contrary by some, that Day will be a Coronal Mass Ejection from the sun. This worldwide disaster will literally...
  11. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Three parrots now! StanJ, you are a serious Bible studier. Please provide the verses proving: 1/ a rapture removal of Christians to heaven. 2/ That God has 2 plans, one for Christians and another for Jews, or Israel. Who are the cultists? Those who believe in something not actually stated in...
  12. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Yes, Matthew 24 and Rev 6 can be read as a parallel prophecy. Jesus gave it circa 30 AD and John, circa 95 AD. They commenced as Jesus ascended to heaven. The quotes I gave from Zechariah prove it. Do not think that because these horsemen are described differently, they aren't the same. That...
  13. keras

    Third Temple

    The teaching of Jesus was that His followers would be a spiritual Temple on earth, in lieu of a physical Temple for the Church age. But there is another age to come. Remember God required a Temple twice before. He does not change and when His righteous people go to live in all of the Holy Land...
  14. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    I don't mind these disputes, it helps to sharpen me. Re the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse: These have been sent to range over the earth. Zechariah 1:8-11, Zechariah 6:1-8 We have had wars, famines, diseases and economic problems aplenty for the last 2000 years, proving the first four seals were...
  15. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Two parrots on their perch. Along comes a fiery wind an blows them down!
  16. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Final realization will only come to those who deny what the prophets tell us, when the sky roll up like a scroll, the sun and stars obscured and the moon burning bright red, as a massive CME is about to strike the earth. Malachi 4:1 Prophecy is for Believers 1 Cor. 14:22b The Bible has plenty...
  17. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Unfortunately for your belief that you won't experience God's wrath, the prophets say otherwise. Not that any true Christian will be harmed by God's wrath, but they will have to be tested by it and provided they stand firm in their faith, will pass safely thru it. 1 Peter 4:12, Luke 21:34-35...
  18. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    The first five seals are already open, history proves that. The peace treaty as per Daniel 9:27, cannot happen until there is a One World Govt led by one powerful man. Believing that Matthew 24:29-31 and 1 Thess 4:14-17 are saying people will be taken to heaven, when that isn't what they say at...
  19. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Still stuck on a rapture removal, that is nowhere to be found in the Bible. There are no 'two peoples, two promises', Israel and the Church. When you and all the wrongly taught people finally realise these truths, then understanding will illuminate your minds.
  20. keras

    Third Temple

    Marcus agrees, there will be a third Temple. You are right, John wrote Revelation AFTER the Roman destruction of the 2nd Temple. Why do you deny a 3rd Temple? The last 1260 days, or 42 months, or 3.5 years is the final period before the Return. It is the time of the Great Tribulation, that will...