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  1. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Ezekiel 7:1-9 This is what the Lord says about the Land of Israel: Disaster is coming to all the earth and now the end is upon you as well. I will send My wrath to judge everyone according to their ways and deeds. Doom is coming to all who live in the holy Land. I will have no pity, nor spare...
  2. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    StanJ, what you deny is the historical proofs of our ancestry. We are Caucasian people, [judging by your pic? ] originating from the Northern Iran, Georgia area. But that is as far back as anthropologists want to go, because that is the exact area the 10 tribes of Israel were exiled to in 722...
  3. keras

    Third Temple

    StanJ, Marcus pointed out Revelation 11:1-2, where John measures the Temple. This is a earthly Temple, as it will be given over to the Gentiles for 42 months..... Please answer; 1/ when did John write Revelation, before or after 70AD? 2/ When did the 42 months take place. 3/ Who are the 2...
  4. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Over 160 times in the Bible, the Jews: the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and part Levi, are mentioned separately from Israel, the ten Northern tribes. 1 Peter 1:1 and James 1:1, knew who and where true Israel were. Josephus also said that the exiled tribes were an uncountable number, scattered...
  5. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    That's incorrect. You are putting the sixth seal after trumpets and bowls. Remember what we said? Matt 24 and Rev 6 are in chronological order... 1st Seal - Matt 24:4-5 NIV, Rev 6:1-2 NIV 2nd Seal - Matt 24:6 NIV, Rev 6:3-4 NIV 3rd Seal - Matt 24:7 NIV, Rev 6:5-6 NIV 4th Seal - Matt 24:6-7...
  6. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    The difference between the Woman Israel and her offspring - us, the Church - is found in Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring —those who keep God's commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Quote...
  7. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    All these quotes refer to the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. At that time there will be a meeting with Him, this may incorporate the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but then all come to earth, where He will be forever. Not even a hint of people going to live in heaven. Marcus says: the...
  8. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    If you wish to continue with believing a rapture removal, then we differ greatly. I can post 20+ scriptures saying how God will protect His people during His wrath. There are none that say He will remove them. Please keep in mind that God originally chose a nation to be His servants and to be a...
  9. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    I am not cherry picking. Many prophesies say how anyone can belong to Israel and the ten tribes, still in exile, are now deemed to be gentiles. Ezekiel 11:14-16, Isaiah 56:3 and Paul is actually talking to the ten Northern tribes, he knew who they were - Galatians for example were Celtic Saxons...
  10. keras

    Third Temple

    Care to address these scriptures, StanJ? There will be a third Temple and it will be greater than the first two. The Lord's holy people will build it. Zechariah 8:9 The Third Temple – Beit HaMikdesh Ezekiel 40,41 & 42 Ezekiel measures the future Temple and its precincts. Ezekiel 43 to 48...
  11. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    The Anti-Christ will become the leader of a One World Govt. Daniel 7:23-27 gives the story. Although certain people in positions of power have been pushing for a OWG for a long time, there is no way nations will give up their sovereignty as things are now. It will take a dramatic disaster to...
  12. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Stan J, who did God make that Promise to? To Abraham, as we see in Hebrews 6:13-17. God will keep His promise to Abraham, the majority of His righteous people will be true descendants, Jews, Western people from the ten Tribes; namely us, plus people from every race and language. Rev 7:9 So we do...
  13. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    For not all who are descended from Israel are Israelites. Romans 9:6 This means that there are other people than Jews now deemed as Israelite. Simple really, as from the Advent of Jesus, any other peoples can become true Israelite by believing in Him. They are designated into tribes as...
  14. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    ATP, why do you start your end times sequence with the AC's treaty? Don't you think there must be some kind of dramatic event to enable the AC to come to power? Who is it that the AC makes this treaty with? You use 1 ​Thess 5:9 as a rapture proof. How does 'attainment of salvation thru Jesus'...
  15. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    So, Marcus, it seems you just can't get the fact that CHRISTIANS are Israelite's. In New Testament scripture, you have failed to read or understand that the Kingdom was taken from the Jews and given to a nation that bears fruit. Matthew 21:43 Not all of Israel are true Israel; Romans 9:8 It is...
  16. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Ugh? That is your reaction to the truth of scripture? I do NOT believe in any rapture to heaven of any people group at any time. The Day of the Lord's wrath, a single Day is what we expect next. The glorious Day of Jesus' Return comes years later. I have posted a scripturally correct chronology...
  17. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Is the truth of what all the prophets tell us will happen, not obvious to you? The Redemption of the Lord’s people, by Isaiah ben Amos Isaiah, the Lord’s servant – his task is to prophesy the restoration of the 12 tribes of Jacob, to bring back the survivors of Israel, so that the Lord’s...
  18. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Marcus, Not only do you deny the truth of what the prophets tell us, you don't bother or can't understand the scientific facts of CME's. Your belief in a rapture to heaven is totally unscriptural. Your attitude towards me shows a similar style to those who threw Christians to the lions, or...
  19. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Marcus and ATP, you are both too confused and locked into false theories for me attempt correction. Only when things happen, will you and millions of other Christians finally understand. Isaiah 32:3-4 When the Lord does send fire, and be sure He will, at least you will know what's happening.
  20. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Well, you agree with me as well. True believers, referred to as the 'woman', in Rev.12, will be taken to a place of safety on earth during the 1260 days of the GT. At the end of the 1260 days, Jesus will Return and gather them, along with all who stood firm in their faith during the GT. Matthew...