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  1. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    It is an error to think the 6th and 7th Seals happen after the Great Tribulation. The great tribulation mentioned in Rev. 7:14, terrible ordeal in the REBible, is a reference to the 6th Seal worldwide disaster, just previously described. A massive CME will cause all the cosmic signs to happen...
  2. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    I agree, the Day of the Lord's wrath is separate from the Great Tribulation. But how can you think the Sixth Seal is after the GT? You are scrambling Revelation and opening the scroll with two Seals intact to do that. Be aware that the Return is referred to as the Great Day of God Almighty, Rev...
  3. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Marcus doesn't see the many promises of God to His righteous people, how they will live in peace and prosperity in all of the Holy Land. Isaiah 35:1-10 His thinking is that the Lord's people will be in the One world Govt, whereas prophecy makes it clear all who stand firm in their faith in God...
  4. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Solar flares or Coronal Mass Ejections The earth has lately been getting some reminders of the sun’s power, with a few solar flares. We are told how they can cause disruption of communications, but the news mostly focuses on the aurora displays. I don’t waste any worry space about these minor...
  5. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Marcus, anyone reading these posts can see how you deliberately refuse to find out how CME's actually happen. Your denial of even the possibility that such a terrible event as prophesied will ever occur, shows up your deep seated fear of the forthcoming Judgement of God. Well, you and others...
  6. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Present the scriptures that prove your confused and illogical rant. As for humility, I doubt you know the meaning of the word.
  7. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Are you so uninformed about Coronal Mass Ejections, that you don't know about how they occur? A CMS IS an explosion on the sun's surface, an explosion like any other, that makes a bright flash. And as the one so extensively prophesied to happen will be bigger than anything we have seen before...
  8. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    And every time you say I'm wrong about it being a CME, without putting forward any other explanation, you display your ignorance. ATP, all of the Lord's righteous people, be they descendants of Jacob or grafted in, will be living in the Holy Land in the new nation of Beulah. They won't be a...
  9. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    As I say, it is the Sixth Seal that will come unexpectedly, as the sudden destruction of the ungodly. There is no rapture removal even hinted at this event. Plenty of prophecy details the cause and extent of this worldwide disaster, but the min devastation will be to the Middle east region...
  10. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Thanks ATP. I can't say I like arguing with Marcus, but his attitude always destroys his credibility and defeats any points he makes. At least he gives me opportunity to present the truth, you have the choice to decide who presents the truth of scripture.
  11. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Yes they are two events. They are described differently and are separate events. The first will be the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, that will come as a thief, unexpectedly. The second is the Return of Jesus, heralded by the signs listed in Matthew 24:29
  12. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Marcus, It seems that Bible prophecy is beyond your capability to comprehend. Let alone scientific data about our sun. Isaiah 30:26 plainly states that one day the sun will emit an extremely bright light. It doesn’t say for how long this will last, but now we know quite a bit about the sun and...
  13. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Isaiah 30:26-28 The sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness, as the Lord Himself comes from afar, His anger blazing and His doom heavy. His tongue is a devouring fire as He sieves out the nations for destruction. On that Day He will heal and bind up the wounds inflicted upon His...
  14. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Jesus doesn't need ten million Angels: He's got the best of the best. 144,000 will do. Quote Marcus Actually He doesn't need anyone, as He destroys the attacking armies by the Sword of His Word. Rev 19:15 But that isn't the role of the 144,000. Their task is to proclaim the coming Kingdom of...
  15. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    You say you know the Bible? You sure miss a lot and what you hit you make to suit your fanciful notions. The Great Trib is just 1260 days, or 42 months, or 3 1/2 years. Daniel and Revelation confirm this. If you read them without your preconceived ideas, maybe the truth will shine into a dark place.
  16. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Marcus, its becoming easier to make you look foolish. You say it isn't His angel army coming with Him? Look at Jude 14-15 and Revelation 19:14 You say Jesus is not Returning to Jerusalem? Try looking at Zechariah 14:4. ATP, Matthew 24:21 refers to the time the Anti-Christ places his image in...
  17. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    So now I am wasting my time with people who say the Bible, speaking about plain objects such as the sun, is just figurative? And people who think a scroll can be read before the seals are removed? The Day of the Lord's wrath will come, whether you like it or not. God has given us the true...
  18. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Marcus your whole premise is false and because you use abuse against anyone who challenges your beliefs, we have to wonder where you are coming from. To say what happens in Rev 7, which is on earth as verses 1-3 plainly state, changes to a scene in heaven, without any indication of a change, is...
  19. keras

    Why do people believe in a rapture?

    Matthew 24:30-31 says Jesus will gather His people at His Return. From the four winds and from the far corners of the heavens. As He has just come from heaven with His angel army, this cannot refer to heaven itself and we see in Rev 7:1, the four winds are earthly. He will gather all who have...
  20. keras

    The Wrath of the Lord

    Revelation 21:3-4 I saw the Holy city, new Jerusalem coming down from heaven, made ready like a bride.....I heard a loud voice say: Now God has His dwelling with mankind....... Just proves I'm human to make a typo. Marcus your belief of another plan of God for the Jews is wrong. Zechariah...