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Where will He be when He comes again is the question. He will leave heaven to the air to receive us up to be with Him where He is as the verse mentioned 'in my Father's house'. Yes, it goes up and then down. As opposed to being raised in the air to then go to the Father's house and have a...

Yes it says exactly that John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am...

The truth is 2 Tim 2: 15-18 dies not even address the issue of the returns of Christ. Guess where the lie is? The resurrection is not past. No one says it is. Once it is passed then it will be over. Then there are still witnesses preaching and people saved.

Of course I do. A lot happens in that day. If that is when He returns to the earth, it is not the second coming. The second time Jesus comes it is not to the earth! You are a conflationist. The day of the Lord comes unexpectedly like a thief in the night. The Rapture time is not known. The...

No spiel needed at all, thanks. If you recall you were talking about knowing what a thesis is! The point was we don't need one, not that your post was long. Scripture doesn't say we sit in the air either. It does say He prepared a place for us and that where He is, there we will be! Plain as...

So why not tell us what you do believe rather than childish insult attempts? So we go up in the air...then...? Since it says this right before, it is talking about His return to earth 2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance .. ? Because...? In that time (the day...

They all knew nothing of the sort

Off topic spam. Why not surprise us and address the issues and post verses that fit at least a little bit?

So what is it you think the spirit said regarding the topic?

Otherwise known as the pee wee yo yo theory. Or the great clumping together or prophetic events! Great, at least you seem to believe in the millennium. I pity the people that think that. He is obviously a clumper. A yoyoist! If I had no convictions I might do the same. Anything goes. I don't...

I agree since the only Scripture posted with 'second time' in it was talking about the rapture! You can call it a tomato if you like. The problem is we are not talking about the same thing. You are talking about some micro second event that encompasses the marriage supper, the Rapture and the...

I could give you plenty but you would just crunch them all together in a ball without understanding them. Looks like you are stuck to your yo yo theory. Cheers.

What is to ignore? Do you not lump the marriage supper and Rapture and return of Jesus to the earth into one event?? If so, that warrants exposure. No one questions that. What are you talking about? The problem is you take three events and stuff them into that same instant! Be honest. Do you...

Thanks for admitting that. I guess we can toss in the great marriage supper of the Lamb with that for the trifecta! Then we can wave away the millennium as false as many who preach the yo yo theory also do! How about you, do you believe there is a real 1000 year reign by us after we return to...

The ones that do you reject because of your yo yo theory. The only problem is that you can what is what and what speaks of what. Don't blame me. You should not reject authoritative scripture using discombobulated random thoughts and verses as if they gave you some sort of authority. You have no...

The argument was that the only time second time is used that anyone posted here so far the context is the Rapture! Funny you find that insulting. I find the yo yo theory insulting to the intelligence as well as to the spirit and written word of God. This is news? The issue is that some conflate...

There is no doubt He comes a second time. The issue is that you conflate that event where He comes for us with the event where He comes all the way to earth with us! Except your yo yo theory is laughable and absolutely unsupportable by Scripture. How so? He did. You just can't understand...

As posted in my previous post, that is about the gathering in the air. So if you want to call the Rapture the second coming, fine. I don't because not all will see Him then, just the believers. When He returns to earth with us, every eye will see Him. That one is about His return to earth when...

The other verses you listed do not say a second coming. In the verse in Hebrews it says this It is actually Heb 9 not chapter 8 and verse 27 is about Paul. Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time...

Couldn't resist this one. So the precise time given in the book covering the end time and that has a special blessing on those who read it (Revelation) are total coincidence?! The times that are the same in Dan 'reeealllly' mean thousands of years!? What a contortion.