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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Except the actual time Jesus spoke of will not be like any other time at all.
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nevertheless it is in heaven. From heaven that then opens, Jesus and us return to earth. Except once again you made that up whole of cloth. We go to be where He is, in the Father's house which is what we call heaven. From heaven Jesus comes down to earth as do we with Him Says who? What part...
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So you think the Rapture is the marriage supper? Funny. What else would we expect from a conflationist I guess. Having fun making stuff up? Nowhere does it say the marriage supper of the Lamb lasts one second! So the scene is heaven, BEFORE heaven is opened and Jesus returns to earth is...on...
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No problem, we can call the Rapture the second coming and the return to earth of Jesus the third coming? Either that or show us some verse that mentions second coming? Right, He comes in the air, raises us up to be with Him. WE are caught up as opposed to the return of Christ to the earth when...
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I guess you missed the point. No one needs some drawn out spiel about what you think The Rapture is or represents yada yada yada It is a matter of believe it or not. If that is your actual opinion of what it means to be with Jesus forever, don't project. we go upp in the air to meet Him and be...
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No one asked you for a thesis of opinion on what you think the Rapture is. Why not just believe that Jesus raises up believers to be like and with Him in the air forever as it says?
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I see. So what verse says Jesus lands, and then takes off again for a short wedding before having us and Him come right back down to earth again? Ha Yet there is a real marriage supper and a bride. Right. So you have a problem with that? Which is when we go up in the air. Otherwise called the...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Except you made that up, nowhere does it say that the scene in heaven where Jesus came from to go to earth and the marriage supper was going on, was 'after' He landed on earth! How dare you accuse others of being unbiblical when you make things up whole of cloth.
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    That verse says nothing about the marriage of the Lamb. Looks like you aere really scraping the bottom of the barrel for random spam verses. Jude actiually points out the saints come with Him. Sorry that is news to you. Angels also! You have a lobotomized, myopic view based on a part of the...
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So a wedding in the clouds after He returns to earth and then takes us up to the clouds -only to have us all go back down to earth within minutes? That sounds like a fly by night theory. That doesn't fit. He is coming in vengeance to destroy the wicked and He is coming WITH His saints!
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven .. Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready How would that work in the yo yo theory? Jesus...
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The collection may not be what you thought. Not if you realize what is what and that there is a Bride Rescue Operation before the trouble begins. The people who get saved during the Tribulation period were probably for the most part already alive at the Rapture. Yet they never chose or had the...
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I understand. I would be insulted also if I had a theory that had Jesus getting His Bride after the marriage! Then zipping down to raise her up a few feet, then immediatly plop down to earth. Truly ridiculous.
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    As He will. Yoou thought there was only one trumpet in history or the end?? Ha No. Both events have trumpet sounds. There are even seven trumpet judgments! Well there are angels in many places in that period. Saying the word angel does not help your little yo yo theory. Misposting to be more...
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There was a shadow of the final leader given in the bible. Of course he woulld to some degree have traits. Otherwise why would God use him as a small example of things to come? The verse you cite, Dan 11:36 is smack dab in the middle of a prophesy about the final world leader. Sorry you were...
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Confused accuser of the saints. Run along if you can't make a cohesive case for your confused prophesy conflation attempts.
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    What is post trib about a loud sound? Gabriel was here in Daniels day. How is it that you seem to think an archangel could only appear once in the end time? How would Jesus speaking and raising and recusing His Own Bride from a coming terror war be post trib? You don't get to declare something...
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The big mouth Antichrist, that man of sin, the beast is well known for speaking. It is a trait of his. It nails who it is. He was not here in the first century. The old yo yo theory. Ridiculous. But thanks for admitting it! Rev 19 has the marriage supper announced in heaven from the throne no...
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Try not to be a sore loser. It is obvious your position was indefensible. Come on over to the winning side. The water is fine here.
  20. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Oh really? Guess that settles it then What else would you call it when not only our spirits but bodies are saved and raised up? So we are raised before the coming period of wrath. Thanks for that. What sort of blessed hope would it be for the Bride of Christ to go through the hellish Great...