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Let’s move on to Dan. 7. No matter what viewpoint a student of prophecy starts with, we mostly all have one thing we believe in common and that is the identity of the beasts from Dan. 7. We know that the lion-like beast was Babylon, the bear-like beast was the Medo-Persians and the leopard-like...

This was first posted a couple of years ago but a conversation with a fellow forum member caused me to take a second look at it and expand it with information gained through further prayer and study. Have you ever had a dream that sticks with you? You know it’s important and that God gave it to...

The Babylon of Rev. is not the same as Babylon of old. it really doesn't take that much study to figure that out.

I think equating the Holy Spirit, with God's "seed" is at best, stretching things way out of proportion and at worst, pretty close to blasphemy. Now you're approaching crazy town. Equating 'one spirit" as being the same as a husband/wife relationship, when it comes to the unity we are...

I am angry and sick and tired of empty, meaningless church services. Let me shock everyone with this statement. I am using caps for emphasis: THE PURPOSE OF THE CHURCH IS NOT TO WORSHIP GOD WITH LIP SERVICE BUT WITH ACTION! It is NOT to sing a few songs, listen to a message and go home. Yes...

Not impossible but if you understand Rev. 18, the whole world would have to have a major geological shift for that to occur. Israel was prophesied to return, Babylon was not.

Whatever this is (which I believe to be the USA) is a replacement for Babylon. The Babylon of old already saw it's destruction a long time ago.

I think the description given in Rev. 18 as well as Jer. 50 &51 clearly describes the US. Based on that description what alternative do you offer because geographically and politically literal Babylon just doesn't fit?

Oh, well, imo, I think he's wrong. It is God's own unique creation. Just??

Where do you see that in scripture? As you know I believe they were in the garden a much longer time than young-earthers think. The bible only says they were forbidden to eat of it after the fall, not before.

I can have them flow w/o forcing round ideas into square prophecies.

I don't think it's a matter of admission or revelation, it's simply a matter of each generation, as a matter of expectancy, views prophecy through the only lens they have available and that is what is happening in the world around them. Certainly not everything they wrote can be considered...

I think you're proving my point here. You are the one demanding it was fulfilled in 70ad while I am the one saying that it doesn't matter WHEN they are all accomplished even if it's 2000+ years later, just that all things need to be accomplished for the turkey dinner to be done. If you were...

I believe if I did prove it you wouldn't admit it anyway, btw, I don't believe in a secret rapture, I do believe calling the last seven year the "trib period" is inaccurate and while the 7 yr. covenant could be between the Arabs and the Jews, I haven't made that claim, so please stop insinuating...

This is where we disagree the most as I believe Rev. is mostly in chronological order with pauses to offer more detail to events or characters off and on. The events don't have to be "made to fit", they blend and flow quite smoothly.

I would say that in the greater context, your quote, "turn the other cheek" is speaking of enemies of the kingdom and not seeking vengeance or retaliation, after the fact, we are to forgive. If you're under attack by those whose sole purpose is to kill or steal from you, then Jesus was asking...

I agree that Jesus can be considered that, however, if it was just a person Daniel had in mind, a different word would have been used. I see no reason that when the time comes it can't be both.

That's not a true statement at all. Here are some futurist teachings from some of the early church fathers: I thought it would be interesting to share some quotes from the early church fathers to show what their thoughts of the end times were. I believe, because the various "trib" (pre, mid...

It depends on the circumstances, if your life is in danger for the sole reason that you or family members are Christians and you're facing martyrdom, then no, you don't fight it. Outside of that if a man doesn't do all he can to protect his family, he will be eternally an idiot. Have you not...

Well you're right, it won't be a nation. It will be the equivalent of a high priest or a significant prophet as exampled in the OT. I'm thinking it could either be David, Elijah or someone who fits the bill among the 144,000.