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Let's try to go point by point. I quoted 6 verses that said Jesus has both a God and a Father, the same God and Father as you and I have. If Jesus is 100% God, then who is God's God and Father?

Well, I've given many verses that call the trinity into question, but I'll try to summarize for you. Verses that say Jesus had a God: (How can Jesus “be God” and “have a God” at the same time?) John 20:17, Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go...

It's ironic that John is the goto book for trinity. He stated why he wrote his Gospel, namely: John 20:30-31, 30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ...

But what does it mean to be one? If being one makes two or more people really one person, then what to we do with John 17:11 and 22? 11 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me...

I'm thinking that we should figure out who God's God is. Why should we worship a lesser God? Let's get to the big one. :) There's just no end to the confusion caused by making God like 3 in 1 oil.

All very true, but where does it say all three are actually one? I mean take John 14:6 for instance; was God talking to Himself? I don't think so. It looks like one guy named Jesus was talking to another guy, his Father, named YHWH. That's two folks there. What's wrong with that? Acts 2:22...

Very true. Jesus is the Bread of Life. He says so in John 6:35. Interestingly enough, verse 38 says Jesus does not do his own will, but he does the will of his Father. God has two different wills. So God has two different wills but one is subjugated to the other? Something's wrong with that. Of...

Gosh, it took me many weeks to learn about the Greek vs. Hebrew view of personification. You seem to have done it in about 10 minutes. Or, did you do any research at all? I'm thinking that's the case. Assuming that to be true, why would I care at all that you compare my thought to the Greek thought?

Reason numbers 1, 2, and 3 do not understand an image of something. An image is just that, an image. It is not the thing itself. Look at your image in the mirror. Break the mirror and the image goes away. But you're still there. Caesar's image was on a coin, but the coin was not Caesar. We are...

Water doesn't normally become wine either and yet it did. Better figure out what's going on. I wouldn't rely on Greek philosophy to do that. They believed in per-existence. See what the Jews though of per-existence. They correctly did not believe in it.

So Jesus was not at all like the rest of us and Hebrews 2:16-17 should be removed from the scriptures? It looks like you are following Greek philosophy by making wisdom (Priv 8) a person. Since the scriptures was not given to them but to the Jews, see how the Jews looked at wisdom. That will...

I just thought of something while reading your post; why does John call Jesus "the Jesus" here but nowhere else? John 1:1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. "The Jesus" just sounds weird. On the other hand, if we take "logos" for what it really...

Heb 2:16-17, 16 For verily he took not on [him the nature of] angels; but he took on [him] the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things [pertaining] to God, to make...

The Hebrew Elohim means "supreme ones" and it is used of other spiritual beings besides God Almighty. Look it up in Strong's Concordance. Almost all the places where Elohim refers to YHWH the pronouns or verbs are singular. Notice the second word from the left, "bra," "he created." It is...

Not only does Jesus have a Father, but he also has a God! The same God we all have. John 20:17, Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. Maybe...

I think Phil 2 is a great parallel with the first Adam. Adam thought it'd be a great idea to be God. Jesus didn't make the same mistake. He could have, but by his free will, he chose to do always what the Father told him to do. What a fantastic story! Of course if we see it as God always did...

I did read Philippians carefully, and the first thing I noticed was that we were to have the same mind as Christ. I see two possibilities. 1) Jesus thought he was God and therefore we are to also think we are God. 2) Jesus had virtually the same authority as God. God was in him (2 Cor 5:19)...

John 5:22, For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Interesting that one part of God gave something to another part of God. Prior to that, I guess they weren't really equal, given that one had something another didn't have. John 3:35, The Father loveth the...

Well, I think I have a pretty good handle on the nature of Jesus and God, namely that Jesus is God's son.

I accepted the mission about 45 years ago. Been the best 45 years of my life! :)