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Saul of Tarsus was on his way to capture and possibly kill Christians. Jesus struck him with blindness and changed his life completely.... OT examples are completely valid when discussing how God interferes in the will and affairs of men. If God does not override man's will then Jesus'...

No because you said God will not override our will. The logical conclusion of this idea is deism. This simply is not supported in scripture, rather scripture is littered with evidence God does and continues to be active in the life and will of men. Jonah said No God, and ended up in a great...

And this is still a red herring. What have you said about the post? Nothing... This brings up the issue why you terminated the conversation previously so I will repost... Post #1431 this is yours... "The calling is EFFECTIVE, as it comes after one is saved. Whether it remains effective is...

No Stan I support what is biblical. You are the one labeling while I support my positions with Scripture. Call me what you like...

So 1,2,and 3 are not saved...4 is. At what point in time in God's omniscience were they being saved? Is it possible they believed in vain as described by Paul? I say never were they being saved from God's perspective. They believed in vain. They had no salvation to begin with, their faith...

Then you still do not understand the parable of the four soils. First, second, and third soils. Only the good soil has salvation...

12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death...

God is definitely partial. He chose Israel for His namesake. He chose Jacob over Easu. He chose Noah. He chose the 12 apostles. God shows unwarranted favor (grace) to those who believe in the name of His only begotten Son. God hates wickedness and rejoices in righteousness. You have a...

The response to the first point is invalid. You did not support your case. The response to the second point does not speak to the apostate nor dispute the argument. It is a red herring. Repentance does not atone for sin, Jesus' death on the cross does. The response to the third point is...

No OSAS is Once Saved Always Saved. Predestination is a predetermined outcome. Biblically it is based on God's foreknowledge. In Romans 8 it is for those He foreknew as "predestined" to be conformed into the image of His Son. In Revelation 13 they are predestined to be taken captive. If...

Prove it is "heart faith" with supporting scripture... Prove God intended to save these spoken of before hand as falling away from the faith...IOW prove they had salvation then lost it... Or better stated make a case for your argument. You simply state it unsupported.

Then to speak of the fallacy of "losing your salvation". Point#1 If this were true all God's promises would be pointless. God can not keep you, you must keep yourself. Thereby you must earn your salvation through obedience. Point#2 It goes against the nature and character of God. Being...

For those who disagree with the perseverance of the saints doctrine they must disprove it...not just post scriptures they believe contradict God's eternal promises... Point #1 God has chosen some from before the foundations of the world. Thier names are in the Lamb's book of Life. Point #2...

Hebrews 6:4 is the most difficult passage to reconcile concerning the "loss of salvation" issue, so for now I will only address this one. The text infers that believers can apostatize. What I see is the concern of expressed followers of Christ returning to Judaism. As they are enlightened...

Because this post is a red herring... What I can't comprehend is why people would think God would start saving someone that He knows will eventually apostatize. God is omniscient and logical. This premise goes against both of these traits of God. Salvation is not something to be lost, it can...

I edited my two posts...you may want to read them... Yet knowing my positions does nothing in interpreting the Word of God, only in arguing against my position. I have never asked your stances nor do I care to know them. If you have a valid point, I will consider it. Yet you must be able to...

And the above post disproves what you are saying here... I remember you stopping when I asked pointed questions concerning your position...

Stan, I am not a Calvinist...this has been your false belief all along... I do not believe in limited atonement. You have had a straw man in your head through our debate... Neither am I reformed... As far as TULIP is concerned maybe TUP...

What I can't comprehend is why people would think God would start saving someone that He knows will eventually apostatize. God is omniscient and logical. This premise goes against both of these traits of God. Salvation is not something to be lost, it can only be gained. Every time you read a...

Yes and we have already witnessed your eisegesis on the Romans passage...the finger you are pointing at others is connected to three others pointing back at you on that hand.