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There is no sin manifested in the snakes, they are just an analogy representing mans fleshly nature, like the snake in the garden. As for Job, I thought the video you posted as well as Job chapt. 32 explicitly and following cleared that up quiet well.

I gave you my def. and just wanted some input from you + being a little lazy:)

The snake representative of sin of course.

Look up to the snake on a pole for healing= representative of Christ bearing our sins on the cross that we must look up to for healing.

Thanks for the list. I never could get him to list the five.

Have you ever thought about if you were surrounded by poisonous snakes how difficult it would be to look up and the correlation to walking in sin and how difficult it is to look up?

I know a guy who says there are five different definitions and he considers himself a Greek scholar.

I see what you mean. I made a stab at it above so give me your definition and maybe we can discuss it more.

Only God can define faith but it seems to be something He provides each one and we make of it whatever we will. To me it means I believe in Him in such a way that I trust Him with my life and that it will make a difference.

I suppose they begin with wanting to please God.

Me thinks you know what you are talking about:)

I spent my spare time yesterday "in the garden of Eden" with skyangle, what happened to him/her? the thread seemed to end rather abruptly back in July. I found it rather interesting in the beginning. What did you think? You are right, Believing Jesus did it all does not = picking up your cross...

Why do you insist on maintaining faith being a mountain? He said His burden and yoke is easy and light. You are not one of those who thinks they must maintain perfection on your own are you? Hyper workers :) Did you leave out the word not here? As long as we will come to Him in faith He promised...

I will let God sort that out.

I will take your word for that. According to scripture true belief/faith implies an end result, in-deed it does;) I suppose most do not.

I did not know there is a debate about will, but am not surprised. Why do you not see believing as an act of the will? Would function be a better word? Am not getting your faith/magic connection, to me faith is not magic.

I still fail to see what is pesky about will.

Sorry but I think I quoted the wrong post in post #68:oops: I meant to reply to this one. When considered in the light of Hebrews 3&4 your suggestion provides food for thought.

Yes, the Hebrew word for "day" actually has several different meanings. If you notice the seventh day is still in progress according to scripture, Heb. 3 & 4.

By "will" I suppose you are referring to predestination? Many things are predestined but individual salvation is not one of them, if it were, it would be laying on God something ungodly. "May" is simply letting us know "will" is a determining factor. Hospital "miracles" and magic depend on what...