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  1. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    εἰ . It would be more accurate to have rendered it "since you address as Father..." It is not conditional in the passage.
  2. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    1 Peter 1:17-19 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your...
  3. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    Peter says the same thing..... And this also to believers sitting beside us in church. :)
  4. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    You mean 100% in accordance to the group with whom they identify. ;) Heresy does not mean "unbiblical" but opposed to the accepted foundational teaching of a group.
  5. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    Could be. I view it as withdrawing help in terms of refraining from delivering Jesus from his pain, suffering, and death. We often feel forsaken (experience suffering, sickness, pain, loss, and death). I had a friend whose 8 year old daughter was diagnosed with a terminal illness. They had...
  6. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    I and my wife are sometimes apart, but she knows I will not forsake her. I think this explains your confusion. Forsake does not mean to separate. If you have really forsaken your wife then perhaps reconciliation is in order.
  7. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    Do you forsake your wife? That is the question.
  8. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    You are back to strawman arguments - arguments that have already been discounted as fallacies. Are you just copying and pasting from some other argument?? I have not rejected "why did you forsake me". I rejected your interpretion "My God, My God, why were you unfaithful and separated from me...
  9. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    Also we have to jeep in mind the words "forsake" and "abandon" can mean "to withdraw one's help" but do not mean "to separate". Separation can include "forsake" and "abandon", but it is an addition to the text.
  10. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    separate [ verb sep-uh-reyt; adjective, noun sep-er-it ] verb (used with object), sep·a·rat·ed, sep·a·rat·ing. to keep apart or divide, as by an intervening barrier or space
  11. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    Yes. The word means "forsake". I never disagreed with that. Your definition "withhold ones help" is fitting. So is "abandon" ("to withdraw protection, support or help"). But you are adding to the definition and Scripture by trying to sneak in the idea of "separation". Scripture speaks of...
  12. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    The thing is we deal with doctrine rather than persons. For example - @David Taylor could rightly argue my view of the Trinity (that the Father and Son are "inseparable" and God did not separate from Christ) is contrary to Reformed Theology (and in that context a heresy). But this deals with...
  13. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    I see your point but disagree (probably because of a difference in backgrounds). I cannot charatize heresies as venial or mortal (a heretic has to do with his or her relationship to accepted belief, not to God).
  14. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    The difference is probably more in terms of theology rather than denomination (with baptism I was referring to baptist theology - not a Baptist denomination). What I am saying is not as hard as you are making it. 1. Christian faith holds that Jesus IS God. 2. Believing God separated from...
  15. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    As a Baptist I would say "infant baptism" is a heresy. Baptist doctrine holds that the only baptism is "believer's baptism" and not for salvation. At the same time a few years ago a Baptist pastor (I think in TX) performed infant baptism (according to the Calvinist tradition, not "for...
  16. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    It is confusing, but not contradictory. It is the language (words have meaning). I am saying that one can believe a doctrine that is rejected by the group to which he belongs (a heresy) without himself being rejected by the group he belongs for holding that belief (a heretic). This depends on...
  17. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    I could have saven you time (I studied Greek at the graduate and post-graduate level). ἐγκαταλείπω has a range of meaning consist with "forsake". It means to abandon, to desert, to leave helpless or in straits (it is always situational, never "to separate"). I actually agree with the...
  18. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    You seem confused, which is my mistake. I forget there is a language (in usage) deference between us. Where I am from "echoing" does not always mean saying something afterwards. Otherwise you merely echo Calvin. The issue with accepting your theory that forsaken means "to separate from" is...
  19. John Caldwell

    Forsaken

    You misunderstand. I am not saying you are confused about your view. I am saying you are confused about mine. The reason I believe this is because you seem to think that I "take my theology" from those who have echoed my belief (like Lewis, Martyr, and Wright). You are wrong on that count. I...
  20. John Caldwell

    Heresy, Heretics, and Hurt feelings...oh my

    I agree that many do take the doctrine of eternal security as a security in sin. They are wrong. But their error has no bearing on the doctrine itself.