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  1. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Eph. 6:13, "the evil day". The bible tells us we won't be surprised at Christ's coming, only the unbelieving world will. Why? Because we know the signs given us in Matt. 24 which parallel the seals quite accurately and no, that doesn't help us calculate any timing. Gathered? no, kept in a safe...
  2. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Nope, I used to be a pre-tribber but God showed me a better way that is much closer to the truth. Pre-trib escapism is a false doctrine. The virgin parable has zero to do w/ the church. Christ was talking to Israel.
  3. Trekson

    Symbolism

    I think it's much more simpler and less prone to error if we just believe it as written. When symbolism is used it's quite easy to understand w/o resorting to OT numerology. In Rev. there is far more literal truth then there is symbolism.
  4. Trekson

    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    OF THE EARTH. The woman herself is not Babylon the Great, just like people who take the name of the beast on their forehead are not the beast themselves. Mystery Babylon the Great is referring to the mystical kingdom of Satan and his angels. They will have an impact regarding the actions...
  5. Trekson

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    She continued to conceive "after" the fall but Gen. 3:16 implies that she had had multiple children prior to the fall. If Eve had never had kids prior to the fall, how would she know that one form of conception (quickly and painlessly) would multiply? One can't multiply something from nothing...
  6. Trekson

    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    Sorry, but Dan. 9:24-27 is 'not" a Messianic prophecy. It's about a prophecy for Israel. For those who actually care about the truth read Dan. 11:22-23, it is speaking of the same prince of 9:27.
  7. Trekson

    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    There are no mountains in Rome, there are only hills and the word for 'hills" would have been used if he was speaking of Rome and if it was Rome do you really think it would need a mind of wisdom to figure that out. Rome isn't ruling the world's economy, and it's not a large importer on the...
  8. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    LOL, Sorry, but the prophets hardly ever wrote for the people of their time. The average is 10-500 years in the future. The first prophecy of Gen. 3:15 took over 4000 yrs. to fulfill. The problem is trying to cram real time events into a prophesied future which all attempts to do so fail miserably.
  9. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Matt. 24:29-31, 1 Thess. 5:3-5, Eph. 6:13, 2 Thess. 2:3-4, 1 Pet. 4:17-19, Rev. 6:9-11, Rev. 7:9-14 shows the post GT raptured/resurrected church arriving in heaven, Rev. 12:17, Rev. 13:7-10. These are all post-persecution verses. If by post-trib you mean post 70th week, then I agree there is no...
  10. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Trying to fit spiritualism into a book that should be taken literally in most cases doesn't lead to the truth. Most of the OT believers were "not" spirit filled. I neve called the bible nonsensical, just some folks false understanding of it.
  11. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Literal possibilities, perhaps true, perhaps not, Christ explains them all and if one sees them any differently, then they are wrong. Some typology yes, tons...nope.
  12. Trekson

    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    As I said, Rev. is a book of prophecy not history and there are about two dozen or more protestant denominations, not including the thousands of non-denominational churches. So much so that added together, Protestants out number catholics close to 3 to 1.
  13. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    In the NT, the word 'elect" only refers to the church, 1 Pet. 1:2, and it wasn't used that often in the OT either. That the church is in heaven at Rev. 19, I agree, however, the wife is on earth. Rev. 13 does 'not" say there will be no believers left alive. Rev. 14 is the separating of the wheat...
  14. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Sorry bro, but that is a nonsensical understanding. For that kind of stuff you have to stay w/ the NT. With that thinking one would be a Mormon.
  15. Trekson

    the beast with seven heads and ten horns - the Roman Empire

    Kings rule over kingdoms. One would think that would be obvious. However, prophetically, the EU is insignificant. Presently there are 27 nations, not 10. Rome is pretty insignificant to.
  16. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    I most certainly am not a preterist, I'm a futurist, but if your bible is leading you to a pretrib understanding, perhaps you should change translations.
  17. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Where do you see the blessing to the 2nd born. It's the first except for only a couple of occasions. If by "post trib" you mean post 70th week, then you are correct there is no rapture at that time, however, the GT will end by that time and the national salvation of Israel will come close to the...
  18. Trekson

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    One has to deal w/ the NT not the old, in this regard. None of the disciples did and 1 Tim. 3:2 says a bishop/deacon "must" be the husband of only "one" wife. Christ isn't going to go contrary to His word.
  19. Trekson

    A Simple Way To Recognize The FINAL Beast Kingdom

    The first four were broken a long time ago. Only the ten toes of clay and iron that are mixed is left. The ten toes equate w/ the ten horns of the 4th beast of Dan. 7, which was "never" Rome and the ten horns/crowns of the beast of Rev. 13 which isn't Rome either. That last 10 confederacy (made...
  20. Trekson

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    It is complete yet? No. But if one rejects the idea that it actually began in 1948, y'all are just denying God's revealed truth. The Israel of today isn't who God is going to enter the millennium with, but some of them may be part of the born again nation of Israel's tomorrow.