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  1. BeforeThereWas

    Effective Communication and Truth

    In theological discussions, problems arise so often on the basis of differences in viewpoints, generally with one or both sides ignoring the clear language of scripture in the place of what they had been taught by those they love, such as their pastor(s). Effective and precise communication will...
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    Respecting Values

    This is a clear example of how mass media spotlights betray the real agenda stacked against personal values and choices that go against the grain of wicked and perverse generations of people who comprise modern culture: BTW
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    "It Is Finished!"

    Amen!
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    Paul and Christianity (A)

    You should cite your source from where you copied that article. Not doing so is plagiarism...that is, if this isn't your own work. It has more than 76% similarity just in the first paragraph with an article on bibletruthpublisher.com BTW
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    A Philosophical Question

    There's no right answer to the wrong question. In other words, when the question itself is flawed because of it violating, in this case, the very premises stated in the OP, what can be expected for an answer? Most true philosophers know better than to ask what is already answered in the...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    I'm always in favor of scripture speaking for itself: Galatians 2:7-9 7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; We see here not only two different gospels, regardless of some people's denials...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Have you noticed how that Peter was speaking to natural and proselyte Israel given that he was not the apostle to the Gentiles? Paul, who was/is the apostle to the body of Christ comprised of Jews and Gentiles, Romans 11:17-21 — And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    So, if I may ask, in the circles of people you move about within your chosen church and/or denominational affiliation, be it Pentacostal or otherwise, does your grouping practice modern-day "prophet(s)" in your meetings together? If so, do they teach to you this stuff you've been saying here? BTW
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    It appears we need some clarification here. I agree with you in some sense of what you're saying. The "new" Israel, as you call it, is "new" in relation to ancient Israel, but that difference is simply a matter of Gentiles having been graft into the same Vine, which is Christ whose original...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Yes, I do. Wait, now you're intermixing concepts in a confusing fashion. The filthy rags analogy has to do with self-righteousness, not the reliability of the scriptures. I am of the belief the Lord gave to us a reliable translation among many that are not so trustworthy. I don't allow the...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Sorry, but it appears you believe in some level of replacement theology under the auspices of some "new" Israel. I don't agree with your interpretation of the passages you cited as pointing to some "new" Israel since Israel is...Israel, period. Jeremiah 3:12-14 12 Go and proclaim these words...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    I was going by your own words where you stated that context is misleading and not something at all that should be a part of understanding the real meaning within scripture. Did you or did you not mean what you said? BTW
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    What you seem to have missed is that I reject your conclusion because of the flawed premise you've put forth. You know nothing of what you're talking about here. That ethereal plane of your existence in relation to the Bible is fundamentally flawed given the clarity in language what Paul had to...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Your experience is very similar to many other people's experiences with that prayer form. It's worth reiterating that Jesus, in that prayer form, still pointed to the Kingdom yet to come that He stated to His disciples and other people that His Kingdom would come within the lifetimes of some...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Interesting post indeed. Thanks for the thoughtful things you brought up. In your final question, you asked what the meaning is within the Lord's Prayer. If we read it carefully, apart from trespasses and forgiveness, it's also about the coming of His Kingdom...a Kingdom we will not be here to...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Indeed? Then you believe the written word, the very word Paul stated is scripture good for teaching, reproof, correction and rebuke, you're saying that all can only be done through some spiritual means? What's the basis for that? How can anyone teach it and from it without relying upon some...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    So, how do you know what scripture is saying? How can anyone else know for sure that your understanding of a passage or passages is true to God's intent? It's one thing for the parables of Jesus being cryptic to hide the meaning from His enemies, but quite another to say that He also inspired...
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    The Frightening Reality About Sin and Repentance

    Context is king within the realm of Hermeneutics. Exclusion of that renders the texts totally subjective, which does indeed appeal to our flesh. BTW