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  1. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    I agree that the complete fulfillment will take place. Absolutely, but it's not yet. preparatory stages are not fulfillments, but rather moves toward fulfillment. That was my point. BTW
  2. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    Precisely my point being made in here. That Israel today possess less than 2% of what was promised to Abraham, that fulfillment is yet future. BTW
  3. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    Nope. Ignoring convenient elements of the imagery that defines that land is the roadway into error. Israel, since 1948, has been in possession of less than 2% of that total land area promised to Abraham. That will not be fulfilled until AFTER the Second Coming of Christ at the end of the 70th...
  4. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    The New Covenant isn't yet actively in force. Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Notice the tense, which, when it was written, was stated in the present tense of meaning. Hebrews is thought...
  5. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    I disagree. Preparatory work, such as technological preparations and international erosion of national sovereignties and populace sways in attitudes and beliefs, all prior to that clock starting its ticking once again, all of that isn't a matter of it ticking away right now. We're still under...
  6. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    Still not a fulfillment of prophecy because MOST Jews are still scattered all across the earth right now. Additionally, Israel is occupying less than 2% of the land promised to Abraham that we would possess. Therefore, prophecy is not yet fulfilled. Perhaps this is the preparatory stages, but...
  7. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    I'm Israeli, so of course I am. BTW
  8. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    Yes. There are a number of places they dredge up from, such as Daniel, Isaiah and other places they compile from in order to jam it all together into a huge pot of gobbldygoop that confuses the masses, with most not knowing how to respond, much less to offer a rebuttal. MM
  9. BeforeThereWas

    1948 NOT a Complete Fulfillment of Prophecy

    Genesis 15:18 — In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt [Nile on the west] unto the great river, the river Euphrates[on the east side]: Operators like The Prophecy Club out of Kansas City and almost every...
  10. BeforeThereWas

    Family and Church

    That's not what I said. Please stick to what I said rather than to indirectly accuse me falsely. Those are good things, but they are more along the lines of surface relationships at a limited level. That only scratches at the surface of what true fellowship is all about. Most churchianity...
  11. BeforeThereWas

    Family and Church

    Is that a moat around that churchianity building? MM
  12. BeforeThereWas

    Family and Church

    The OP fails to address the fact that there are other models for the gathering of believers one can not only attend and support, but that there are options to form something themselves within many different defining expressions. Every institutional church organization has thing(s) going on that...
  13. BeforeThereWas

    Family and Church

    How does one effectively contribute when looking at the backs of the heads of others? MM
  14. BeforeThereWas

    Conspiracy Theories

    Also of note is the lack of credit. No bibliography for what appears to be copy-n-paste. Is that the case here? MM
  15. BeforeThereWas

    Conspiracy Theories

    This appears to be another drive-by posting with the OP'er not engaging beyond the initial two posts from almost two weeks ago. MM
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    Family and Church

    The institutional model is only a model even though it has considerable history and affection for its existence. The gathering of believers has a number of expressive outflows that do not require over-priced real estate and all the expenditures they demand upon fellow believers. Professional...
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    Religion Has Always Been the Dividing Factor Among People.

    Blessedly, we serve a Lord who wasn't surprised by any of it. He saw it all coming before the world was ever formed. MM
  18. BeforeThereWas

    AI Name Change

    Artificial Inteligence, so called, will soon be renamed to something not quite so distancing, as is the case with it being called "artificial." The coders and the financial backing interests behind it, including the spiritual interests of the powers and principalities of the air, to help make...
  19. BeforeThereWas

    TWO GOSPELS

    Absolutely. Yes. Thank you for your comments. BTW
  20. BeforeThereWas

    TWO GOSPELS

    Galatins 1:6-9 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto...