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Right. Why is it that limited atonement was never even heard about until the 16 century and then only one person developed the view, namely Calvin. No other Protestant denominations outside of reformed or some derivative thereof hold such a view. Hardly the Gospel that the Holy Spirit...

Maybe you could help Brightfame52 in his quest to explain limited atonement. He has not produced a single piece of evidence that states explains or even infers limited atonement. Jesus interceding on a believers behalf has nothing to do with His atonement. His atonement makes it possible for...

Are you purposely disagreeing with scripture, or you did not know these texts existed that deny limited atonement?

First you do not understand the difference between Universal Atonement and Universalism. As to your second point, absolutely correct man determines where he will spend eternity heaven or hell. What was atoned by Christ? He accomplishes it through His Incarnation,, death and resurrection. His...

We don't have a sin nature either. We have a mortal nature. Christ had this same nature, a mortal nature, a nature that could die just like us. That nature came from Mary who also had a mortal nature. Not only wrong, but contradictory as well. You're the one sounding foolish on all points.

Where do you find this in scripture. Isn't any wonder your theology is so incongruous with scripture. If this were actually true, then Christ could not be Incarnate either. He would have taken on what you call a sin nature. You make Him a sinner, yet scripture says He was without sin. Now...

That is the point precisely. Well, that is if you believe He actually became man, assumed our human nature, the very same nature as we, that is a mortal nature. If that is what you believe you cannot hold to a limited atonement. Limited atonement infers that Christ was not Incarnated. Listen...

I can understand your reluctance to actually use the texts and contexts to support your assertions. They won't stand up to scripture correctly understood and has not changed since the beginning. Lots of false teachers have come and gone. They are easy to discern. Since you are reluctant to...

Wow, I think you are the only one that has supported "limited atonement" on this thread. Might be one other. I have shown biblical evidence it is false. I have presented theological arguments that it is false. I have shown historically it is false. I have shown that it was declared a heresy by...

I already cited several texts that denies the view you hold. Yet I see nothing from you.

I see a lot of digression here and nothing to support your concept of OSAS which you call perseverance of the saints. What texts guarantee in this life one has been saved, that is past tense saved by belief.

How can you even use the word "Incarnate" and limited atonement in the same phrase. They are categorically, diametrically opposite of each other. Maybe the question should be, do you know what the word means, what it entails? Part of your error in understanding limited atonement is using...

So you keep saying, however, I'm asking about those that are not mentioned regarding life. In another post you say the non-elect will be resurrected in the last day. Where in scripture does it say that they received life in order to stand in judgement. You make the same claim for Rom 5:12. If...

Heb 2:9 says He tasted death for everyone. It makes it possible for Him to have people believe in Him and have an eternal existence. I John 2:2 says not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world. Well, our sins that Paul references is about the elect, but the rest covers the world...

Ah, so your theology does not need to be consistant. You can pick and choose certain texts or deny most texts of scripture when it does not align with your theory. Explain just how your non-elect could be risen? They were not part of the "all mankind" of I Cor 15:12-22 or I Cor 15:52-53...

Could you explain to me in vs 18 when it says, as through one man's offense judgement came to all men resulting in condemnation, Now if it is as you say that this is speaking about the elect, where are all those who did not come under the judgement of Adam. Are they still alive since they...

That is exactly what he is saying, vs 13 could not be more clear. If those verses are not clear to you, then drop down a few, I Cor 15:21-22. It is an equation.

That might be even worse. He was the first to make this claim. You are either ignorant of the history of OSAS, or you want to take credit for yourself. But you have not produced any text that supports this idea that a simple one time, mental ascent of faith, finitely grants a person...

I'm not sure what answer you are agreed on, I assume post 346. If that is correct the explanation of Rom 5:18-19 is incorrect. But that notwithstanding, there is no such thing as limited atonement.

You obviously do not understand the ramifications of your own theology. His gift of salvation is offered to every human being. Heb 2:9 is objective. He overcame death for every human being and no man can reject it. His sacrifice for sin is also offered to all mankind, I John 2:2. This second...