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  1. keithr

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Luke 17:29 WEB (29) but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from the sky, and destroyed them all. 2 Peter 2:6 WEB (6) and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, having made them an example to those who would live in...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Most of the Book of Revelation is symbolic. John declares so in the very first verse: Revelation 1:1 UASV+ (1) The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place; and he sent his angel and presented it in signs through him to his...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    2 Peter 3:7 WEB (7) But the heavens that now exist, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. Revelation 17:8 WEB (8) The beast that you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the abyss...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    So you think that the "good news of great joy which will be to all the people" (Luke 2:10) is that our loving, merciful and gracious God, who planned everything before the creation of the universe (Acts 15:18), is planning to intensely torture billions of humans, the vast majority of mankind...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    You will too, eventually - we all will! God is love (1 John 4:8). Exodus 34:5-7 (WEB): (5) Yahweh descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed Yahweh’s name. (6) Yahweh passed by before him, and proclaimed, “Yahweh! Yahweh, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, and...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    John 3:16-17 WEB (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (17) For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. John 12:48 WEB (48)...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    No. Do you? I believe that you are mistaken. You're not taking the passage in context - Luke 16:13-14 (WEB): (13) No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. You aren’t able to serve God and...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Romans 6:23 WEB (23) For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:15-16 UASV+ (15) so that everyone believing in him will have eternal life." (16) For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, in order that whoever...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    I don't know, I've never been in a Kingdom hall. Hell fire is not the main Bible doctrine! If there appears to be Bible verses which are not in harmony with each other then we should assume that we have not correctly understood one or more of those verses. We can only be confident in our...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    John 3:16 (WEB): (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Revelation 20:14-15 (WEB): (14) Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. (15) If...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    Can you love a God who is going to torture millions of people, forcing them to endure agonising pain, for all eternity? Do you agree that that is reasonable justice? God declares justice should be "life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot" (Deuteronomy 19:21)...
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    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    1 Corinthians 15:12-18 (WEB): (12) Now if Christ is preached, that he has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? (13) But if there is no resurrection of the dead, neither has Christ been raised. (14) If Christ has not been raised, then...
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    WHO IS THE ROCK? JESUS OR PETER

    Israel thought that they could gain eternal life by keeping the Law, but Jesus taught them that the Scriptures pointed to him as the only way to obtain eternal life: John 5:39-40 (WEB): (39) “You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they...
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    WHO IS THE ROCK? JESUS OR PETER

    The cross is implied by Jesus in the preceeding 2 verses - John 3:14-15 (WEB): (14) As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, (15) that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Verse 14 is referring to Numbers 21:8-9...
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    WHO IS THE ROCK? JESUS OR PETER

    John 3:16-17 (WEB): (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (17) For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. Everybody is...
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    POLL: Does the Comma Johanneum(1 John 5:7) belong in the New Testament?

    The Updated American Standard Version (2022) says: 1 John 5:7-8 UASV+ (7) For there are three that testify: N3 (8) the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. N3: The earliest and best manuscripts (א A B (Ψ) Maj syr cop arm eth it) do not contain this spurious...
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    24 elders in Heaven

    1 John 4:1-6 WEB (1) Beloved, don’t believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (2) By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, (3) and...
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    24 elders in Heaven

    Where did you learn such nonsense, or are you making it up yourself?! These are the only occurrences of the phrase "great tribulation" in the KJV: Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Revelation...
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    24 elders in Heaven

    Hebrews 11:5 WEB (5) By faith, Enoch was taken away, so that he wouldn’t see death, and he was not found, because God translated him. For he has had testimony given to him that before his translation he had been well pleasing to God. Albert Barnes Notes on this verse says: By faith Enoch was...
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    24 elders in Heaven

    Verses 5-6, the first resurrection, is the referring to the resurrection of the Christian Church. They (we) are all changed to be part of a new creation and are resurrected as immortal spirit beings, like Jesus: 2 Corinthians 5:17 WEB (17) Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new...