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I don't see the link between predestination in Romans 8 and how the Holy Spirit worked in the Old Testament. Hebrews 11:13-17 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were...

They new a redeemer would come. They didn't know Christ. Isaiah was prophesying that when Jesus came, many Jews would reject Jesus, but many Gentiles would believe in Jesus. The sound going into all of the earth is a reference to Psalm 19:1-6 1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the...

Can you give a rebuttal to Tommy Cool's post. Coming upon and abiding in are 2 separate manifestations.

Thanks Tommy Cool

Jesus ascended in a flesh and bone body, maybe without blood. The 2 witnesses ascended and people watched them. Why would the physical body be raised if it didn't have a spirit coming to fill it? A transfiguration type of event is coming for "we who are alive and remain." The physical body...

You missed the hardest one. 1 Samuel 16:13 "Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah." I never said that God did not pour out his Spirit on people in...

I'm a little confused. Are you referring to the Godly and ungodly as the 2 classes of people? The book of Daniel is very clear about the spiritual forces acted being the scenes in the battles of mankind. The evil spirits gather the ungodly to a specific place because the evil spirits can't be...

I think we are talking about God's grace throughout time, with or without the Holy Spirit. See my post to Tommy Cool.

Paul talks about the election of grace for OT believers. Romans 11 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars...

I mentioned King David and John the Baptist. I am not sure what to make of that.

How is bodily resurrection relevant to the time people receive the Holy Spirit? I believe the moment Jesus arrived on high is pictured in Rev 5:6. "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain...

The righteousness of God was made know in the OT, but it was not understood. In the sermon on the mount, Jesus showed that the best of the Jews had no idea what the law entailed. For example: Hatred is murder. I think one of the greatest mercies of God is not revealing to us all of our sins at...

They should have, but obviously they did not. King Saul rejected God and was later filled with an evil spirit which could only be driven out when David played his music. The answer to your question is yes. Israel did not have the power to cast away all of their transgressions. That is, they...

Exactly!

I don't understand. Wasn't the Gospel new, when it was presented? 1st song - Relationship between man and God exists for those with faith in the creator God, but mankind is not redeemed from the earth. 2nd song - Spiritual redemption of mankind from the earth to those with faith in Jesus. 3rd...

EWQ in When did Jesus receive the book/scroll. All of my arguments are there. EWQ is with you. This othodox timing has always produced disagreement. If Revelation interpretation was settled, I wouldn't be unorthodox in my thinking. What you have stated makes as much sense as anything that I...

This is pretty much how I understand things. The 7th plague is the last plague as told in Rev 15:1. I would like to emphasize the gathering of the nations in verse 16 above, the voices thunders and lightnings with an earthquake in verse 18, the hail in verse 21, and the fact that these things...

Thanks, but no. I have considered every passage as you have. We just disagree.

John 3 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily...

There are bible texts that seem contrary, which is not unusual. I am assured in my mind through the following texts that Jesus' spirit went to hades and not to heaven for at least 3 days. This point of view supports my larger unifying theory about prisoners/captives in hades being led by Jesus...