Search results

1. Before, you said that the difference between them and those who believe Paul's Gospel was that "we are secure in our salvation" but "they had no such assurance [of salvation]"... ...but, now, you're changing your argument. LOL! Could it be that you don't have a clue what you're talking...

LOL! I thought you already conceded Peter was the rock He built His church on--it doesn't matter, though, because, at the end of the day, Peter is in the Church, and is given instructions for what to do with people who misbehave in the Church. Literally no one but some silly woman "gets" your...

LOL! You all really are ridiculous. Jesus taught the disciples He would build His church, and the gates of hell would not prevail against it, and that if people misbehave, kick them out of the congregation, so they all had better behave... but Peter is not in the congregation, and he never was...

It makes it more difficult to discuss things that our time zones are what they are--but I have to check out in the middle of our conversation. Sorry. It's late here.

You said Peter was not in the Church. So, is he in, or did he get kicked out?

So, again, you said Peter was not part of the Church, right?

So, Peter is NOT part of Christ's Church which He says He will build, and that the gates of hell will not prevail against? LOL! What did Peter do that he got kicked out of the congregation? LOL!

Matthew 18:15-20

So, Peter is a member of the Church right?

So, Peter is part of the Church, right?

Is Peter part of Christ's congregation that the gates of hell will not prevail against, or is he not part of that?

Irrespectively, Jesus gave instructions about if a person sins, you go to them personally, then, if they don't listen, bring other witnesses, and, if they still don't listen, bring them before Christ's Church/Congregation, and if they still don't listen, kick them out of the congregation, and...

Irrespectively, do you deny Peter was part of Christ's "Church", which just means "congregation"? Even Doug conceded that much.

That I know of, I cannot accept the Marian dogmas. I already reject "faith alone". I already know you all know God--just like the Calvinists, the Orthodox, the Lutherans, etc. But everyone demands that you adhere to all or nothing, so I haven't joined any of them. Also, for me, the buck stops...

Great, now I hope we can all focus on the topic of the thread--Doug's insane claims that the Church is not the bride of Christ.

Congratulations on being the only living infallible human being! LOL! Anyway! Moving on!

Protestants tend to be REALLY "touchy" about the passage, but their issue has nothing to do with any ambiguity in the text (clearly, "upon this rock" refers to Peter), but is nothing more or less than a simple unwarranted allergic reaction to Catholicism; that said, again, as I said to the other...

Accept that people disagree with your view, and move on. I will not be responding to any more of your off-topic messages on this thread.

@Doug Some of the fatal flaws in your view : 1. You say that believing Israel was unsecure in their salvation, but we are secure, because John 15 says they could be cut off, yet, in "Paul's Gospel to the Gentiles", which you say differs from "Peter's Gospel to Israel", he also warns that those...

It is not the topic of this thread, so it shouldn't occupy more of the discussion. I will now repost what I see as some of the fatal flaws in @Doug's view, and ask you to move on.