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It all fits together, i just don't know how. Lol thanks!

It may just be a matter of emphasis. You who really emphasize Christ's atonement may have a helpful and right emphasis.

Yeah, Jesus taught the same as Paul : in Matthew 18, the man had already been forgiven, and he was to forgive on account of that, and had the forgiveness extended to him rescinded because he did not forgive. These are one and the same teachings.

1. I think Jesus used the Law appropriately (1 Ti 1:9)--testing people to see if they would be honest about whether they measured up to the standard, or would lie and claim to measure up ("You know the commands..."). That's the same way it is used today. Jesus said the sinner who asked for mercy...

Of course we're not under Law.

I agree it doesn't--if I thought it did, I wouldn't spend time seeking to understand what it is actually saying (ie, reconciling this doctrine with that doctrine).

I was trying to help you make your argument. Maybe you don't know what I believe because I can't make heads or tails of the entire message of Scripture taken as a whole, and that was what I was explaining

Yep, except there's a difference we may have on the definition of "saved" which I don't want to get in to. Too good to know by our good deeds bc the deeds can't close the gap between He and us created by our sin (Is 59:1). Yep, He's revealed Himself more and more over time. John 9:31 We know...

I gotta agree with Scripture--Jesus says those who do good will resurrect to life, same thing written everywhere else in Scripture. It's a question as to how to hold to both doctrines not just one. If I dismiss one for "convenience", how am I not making God a liar?

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No, the whole point is the Jewish believers should stop trusting and boasting in their Jewishness, circumcision, and knowledge of good and evil (knowledge of Torah), and, as a result, looking down on their believing Gentile brothers. He continues holding them up against the Jewish believers...

Well, good thing I'm not a KJV-onlyist!

Yup

He describes what will occur on the Day of Judgment "their thoughts accusing or else excusing them on the Day when according to my Gospel God judges the secrets of men's hearts by Christ Jesus." It is not a descriptor of their manner--"These Gentiles are hypocrites!" He literally just...

Yeah, I know that part of the Bible exists, but I also acknowledge other parts. That is why I talk about the difficulty in reconciling these ideas.

You're trying to say "Look what these Gentiles do", but it isn't about what they do, it's about what will occur at the Judgment.

Yeah, it's clear their thoughts will accuse them. And somehow this determines eternal life.

Ro 2 says the upcoming judgment will decide eternal life. Jesus says the same in Jn 5. Yeah we've discussed it. We don't see eye to eye.

The reason it says the action is being done to anther is because it is their own thoughts which are doing it to them. Testifying against or for them. No, not at all. Paul knows the Law is being written on their hearts because they're believers. The issue isn't whether or not they know good and...