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You're digressing again! Yes, I believe what Peter said. Yes, I do. You're wrong. I do believe what Jesus said. He was a man - he had been from his human birth right up until his death. Since his resurrection he has not been a man; he is now a spirit being having the same divine nature...

That has been covered earlier in this thread/discussion (see A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians - post #230), so I won't go over that again. John also didn't write "Jesus is the Christ, and is God". Why didn't he write that if that is what he believed? Could it be that your assumption is...

I like your post, but who was/is Martin?

John did not believe that Jesus was God. He clearly states, John 20:31 (WEB): (31) but these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in his name. Being a son of God does not make you God. Even Satan was a son of God...

Hebrews 1:2 clearly says that God made the worlds though His Son, or as the KJV translates it "by whom also he made the worlds". Verses 8-10 clearly show God saying that His Son, Jesus, "in the beginning, laid the foundation of the earth" and that the heavens were the work of Jesus' hands. It...

Jesus existed in heaven before God changed his nature to be human - John 6 (WEB): (38) For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me. (46) Not that anyone has seen the Father, except he who is from God. He has seen the Father. (51) I am the living...

I merely quoted the words of Jesus. Believe him, or don't. It's your choice. The Jews thought that Jesus claiming to be God's Son (which he was) made him equal, as in similar, to God. They didn't think that it meant that he was God. Why would they? That's not what Jesus claimed - he simply...

John 18:37 (WEB): (37) ... For this reason I have been born, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” John 17:3 (WEB): (3) This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him...

I'm not going to dignify such disrespectful and insulting remarks with a response to your false accusations and misunderstanding of the quoted Bible verses.

Of course, because Jesus was God's agent in creating all things (the universe, the Earth, heavenly hosts and all life on Earth), and he rightly gives God the glory. As God's agent in the creation he had to have existed before he was born as a human. Proverbs 8:22-31 (WEB): (22) “Yahweh...

As Pinseeker has chosen not to reply, I'll make a comment. You seem to be implying that Jesus did not exist before he was born as a man, so how do you harmonise that with the following verses? Colossians 1:16 (WEB): (16) For by him [Jesus] all things were created, in the heavens and on the...

Ephesians 4:31-32 (TLV): (31) Get rid of all bitterness and rage and anger and quarreling and slander, along with all malice. (32) Instead, be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving each other just as God in Messiah also forgave you.

Note what God wrote - "You shall have no other gods before me". The Hebrew word translated as before, al, means above, over, upon or against. For example, it's used in Genesis 1:2,20: 2) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of...

Perhaps Bob was thinking of Jesus saying, Matthew 5:38-40 (WEB): (38) “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ (39) But I tell you, don’t resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. (40) If anyone...

I'm not sure why, but I want to mention Matthew 5:3 (WEB): (3) “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. I agee though that we should be becoming more and more like Jesus, and God. Matthew 5:48 (TLV): (48) Therefore be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is...

Yes. Matthew 5:21-22 (WEB): (21) “You have heard that it was said to the ancient ones, ‘You shall not murder;’ and ‘Whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ (22) But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause will be in danger of the judgment; and...

I don't remember reading anyone's post where they claimed that God is not a spirit being (but I don't have the time to read all threads!). Can you point us to some examples?

Of course, it is obvious that a husband and wife do not become a single flesh being. Matthew 19:5 (WEB) says: (5) and said, ‘For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh?’ where the Greek word that is translated...

Taking the verse in isolation, it could be looking forward and implying that one day we will be perfect, but in the context of the passage it makes more sense as it is translated in the KJV and other translations, as a command - Matthew 5:48 (MKJV): (48) Therefore be perfect, even as your...

The Ark of the Covenant was/is God's physical throne on the earth. In the visions given to John he saw the Ark in heaven, perhaps symbolic of the spiritual equivalent in heaven - God's throne and authority based on His laws which were/are in the Ark. Revelation 11:19 (WEB): (19) God’s temple...