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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Repeating: I believe in Jesus Christ, Son of God, whom created the world, was born of a virgin, lived, suffered, and died for my sins*. He rose again, so that I too may rise again*. He is the center of my world, the foundation of who I am. He empowers me to do all the good thing I do, and...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Once again: "anti cultists" turn the conversation to talking about Joseph Smith rather than Christ . :rolleyes:
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    What I stated is actual LDS Christian beliefs on Christ. Christ is the most important subject anyone can talk about. LDS Christians aren't Sola Scriptura. If you believe that it's essential to believe Sola Scriptura in order to be saved, then we can talk about that point more in depth.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I described actual LDS Christian beliefs. If you want me to discuss any of the false straw man myths you mentioned, we can. If you don't care, that's cool your choice and I won't waste either of our time.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Ditch the stramwan arguments and barbs Preacher4Truth! I believe in Jesus Christ, Son of God, whom created the world, was born of a virgin, lived, suffered, and died for my sins*. He rose again, so that I too may rise again*. He is the center of my world, the foundation of who I am. He...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I'm going to be extremely blunt here: I don't attend the church of Joseph Smith. Christ is the center of my faith. And I find that in general (all of this post is generic) "anti cultists" would rather spend thier time tearing down a man everyone acknowledges was a sinner, and refuse to talk...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I'm going to be direct here: If either of you are concerned about anyone's salvation, then talk with me about CHRIST and SALVATION. Joseph Smith is not the Savior nor a perfect individual. No one thinks he is. A quote from him is not automatically LDS doctrine, even in the eyes of LDS...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    If you want to talk with (or about)LDS Christians effectively , then you need to understand how LDS Christians view things. Not how you consider things.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    If this is necessary for salvation, why would it not be directly stated in scripture?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Except that Joseph Smith saying something doesn’t automatically make it LDS Christian doctrine. And this speculative statement is not remotely cannonized nor actively discussed in LDS Church. You’ll find folks with a wide variety of views on this, all in good standing. Zero of them are what a...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Scripture doesn’t say that the Father, Son and Spirit are one through substance.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    For example: LDS Christians believe the Father, Son, and Spirit are three persons in ONE God via unity rather than a shared substance as stated in the Athanasian Creed. No quailms with the Bible I don’t believe that either beliefs damns anyone. You seemingly do. Hence my question about...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    There is not such official doctrinal LDS claim in that regard And as i’ve discussed, LDS Christians don’t believe that being born makes one a sinner bound for Helll, which is the understanding Prayer Warrior is bringing into this
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Answer my question please. Because I have no qualms with the Bible. There are major disagreements with the Athanasian Creed though.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Actually that’s completely inaccurate.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Who here believes that the Athanasian Creed is God given and necessary for salvation?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    You believe that having the correct view about each of these is necessary for salvation?
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Than talk with me about CHRIST. All other subjects are of lesser importance than Him.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Which one of these do you view as being most important to salvation, and we’ll talk about that one first.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    If you want to stay with that bad info, I acknowledge your choice in that regard.