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  1. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I've posted this on CB before, but it bears repeating: When I was ~6 six years old, I was going through a really rough time in life. I was bogged down in the difficulties of life and in pain this existence can bring. I also felt weighed down for my own shortcomings- that I couldn’t do this or...
  2. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    As I just said: I've been watching these type of arguments for over 30 years. As long as the conversation is distracted with spam about junk & men's sins (that includes any man-made book), it's never edifying and everyone just walks away with a bitter taste thinking the other guy is an idiot...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    His is King! Lord of Lords! The so many wonderful lives touched by Him here, not just my own. I see His power and glory in so many others here, including yourself and so many others. His power doesn't stop at the end of a pew.
  4. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    How? How is anyone edified by spewing out inaccurate junk to "warn" someone another group? Would it not instead by edifying to talk about Christ and rejoice in Christ? To see the miracles He works in others? Prayer Warrior, I know you mean well. I've been watching these type of arguments for...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    No. Worship services can happen any day, and typically just go with the local culture. In western countries, that's Sunday. But like in the middle east they do Saturday. The purpose of the Sabbath is to remember to have a day of rest and to worship, not be phrasisees about the calendar...
  6. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    No, it is you assuming stuff and trying to go off on things that are not believed. It is beyond insulting and makes dialogue extremely difficult (if not impossible) because you're not actually responding to anything I said. For example: you hav the idea that a priest is supposed to stand...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Stop trying to put words in my mouth to things I have not said nor believe. You keep trying to do that, it is beyond disrespectful, and makes any dialogue impossible.
  8. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Every church believes that they are they have they most Truth. LDS Christians are no exception. It is firmly believe that their interpretation is most correct, that they have the only valid Priesthood authority, etc. Just like every other church makes the case about their church.
  9. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I was more speaking about the methodology in which people do those things. For what it's worth, I find the same irony with people attacking your denomination's beliefs. Not saying that I remotely agree with some of your denomination's beliefs (we've chatted before), but I do equally despise...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Lynn Wilder is a person drastically skewing things in that book. Similar folks are a dime a dozen, coming from every conceivable group. Sorry, O would really like to move beyond stating that about a person who isn't even here, and instead talk about Christ and what is actually believed. But...
  11. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Hence why I find it ironic when a non-Catholic (or non-Orthodox) criticizes LDS Christians for believing that there was a falling away. As with what you say: the falling away was gradual. And as I've stated many times, other non-LDS folks can indeed be Christians and did/do strive to follow...
  12. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    For any group, ex axe-grinders skewing things are a dime a dozen. Again: do you want to ask an ex-Protestant now-Muslim to explain (what they call) real Protestant beliefs to you?
  13. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    From a million conversations with "anti-cult" folks. It's not a universal trend by any means even within that anti-cult-camp, but it is a very common one.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    The irony is that these anti-LDS Christian folks that love to bash saying "LDS Christians are #&%* because they believe there was a falling away in mainstream Christianity, that can never happen!", and then turn around and bash Catholics that they are %*&* for falling away. Clarification on...
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    While I strongly disagree with your phrasing here, I do indeed find it ironic that so many of the folks that so adamantly anti-LDS Christians will in the same breath be adamantly anti-Catholic.
  16. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    LDS Christians believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are three different persons in one God, same as Christians which subscribe to the Athanasian Creed. The difference between the two beliefs is the *how* three are one: LDS Christians believing through unity and Athanasian Christians through...
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    Help

    *hugs and prayers for @Nancy *
  18. J

    Arthur

    In today's world, there are people who openly embrace sin. And we do have to fortify our children in what is God's Truth and how to best love other people, even the open sinners, from the time they are babies. That's just a fact.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Then this conversation is done. I am done talking to a person that calls it "godly" to treat other people as objects and to do so in God's name.
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    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Answer my question. Do you think that the way you treat people like objects is whawt Christ wants you to do? Or that it's going to convince people to embrace your bleiefs?