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  1. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    The messiah did get killed for us long ago. That final seven years is yet to come. After that we get the everlasting righteousness. All this regardless of swamps and unfinished building etc.
  2. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    A building in your scenario gets cut off. The bringing in everlasting righteousness was future. So was Jesus getting killed but not for Himself (but for us). Newton has nothing to do with it. Floating? Certain different things are prophesied by Gabriel. The total number of years (groups of...
  3. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Jesus won't be cut off again. Ever. Look up cut off in the bible and see that it not a term for construction. Maybe have a look at Isa 53:8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the living For the...
  4. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Daniel 9:25 "Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,' and sixty-two ‘sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. Daniel 9:26 After the...
  5. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Jesus brings in righteousness. Th witnesses were not mentioned in Dan 9. Jesus brings Himself in. I kid you not. Gabriel gave the times. Not Daniel.
  6. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Build unto the messiah? What does that mean? That makes no sense. No one is going to be killing Jesus again, He was cut off only once. The transgression and ending sins is not happening in the Tribulation, to say the least. Jesus did that and was cut off after. The prophesy will not be...
  7. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Dan 9 So everlasting righteousness was brought in thousands of years ago. Interesting./ I must have missed that. We could get into the Hebrew meaning of the word (sevens) or etc. But one thing we can notice is that Jesus was not killed hundreds of days from Daniel's time either. It was...
  8. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Yet it is given in days and weeks also.
  9. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    So you accept that the last seven years of Daniel must come in the future?
  10. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    I tend to agree about your position.
  11. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    False accusation. Prove it by showing what in Daniel you claim I do not understand.
  12. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    He did say what was in Luke before He rose up to heaven. Not sure what you problem is.
  13. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Don't blame me for mentioning that we are a work in progress, as much as some people seem to think their stuff doesn't stink. Methinks thous doest protest too much. That was not His kingdom coming to earth so that it would be the same on earth as in heaven. Look around if you doubt it. Yes, in...
  14. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Having a truck in the truckwash does not mean it is already clean. Jesus did that. He told us when we start to see the signs, boom. It is near. Period. He clearly gave the times. The times when we are to know our redemption is near are exactly when we start to see the things He spoke about...
  15. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Incoherent babble...
  16. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    When discussing specific prophesy, one looks at the prophesies. Your trying to make prophesy fit into the first coming is unsound.
  17. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    You do not get to override Jesus. Seriously. He verified Daniel was right. In case there was any doubt Revelation confirms the timing.
  18. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    Show the quote. Then we can clear up your misunderstanding on this issue
  19. dad

    When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

    We are being tried and purified. Sorry if you thought you made it. He took great pains to tell us what would happen. How could you say you don't know? What will happen is that in a moment, we will be changed and raised. Those who see, as He said, these things BEGIN to happen are not...